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Slayerhero90

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Re: Atheism/Religion Discussion
« Reply #1755 on: December 22, 2012, 04:33:26 pm »

By capitalization, we mean this:

when did jobs die

That can be taken in tow different ways, as jobs is both a plural noun and a last name.

When did jobs die
When did Jobs die

Or more in one of your run-on sentences.

i can see the sky i don't see the stars right now i just see the sun the clouds are out too

Even just capitalizing and punctuating that properly would help.

I can see the sky. I don't see the stars right now. I just see the sun. The clouds are out, too.
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« Reply #1756 on: December 22, 2012, 04:46:21 pm »

Okay I'll try to do that but again dont expect it to be a switch that can be turned on and off.
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Re: Atheism/Religion Discussion
« Reply #1757 on: December 22, 2012, 05:21:14 pm »

This whole thread should probably be locked. We can only get more annoyed at each other as we retread old ground.
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« Reply #1758 on: December 22, 2012, 05:30:45 pm »

That'll be kinda good, as I probably shouldn't have posted here in the first place and I don't want more arguments popping up in my SNRtYPs.
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Re: Atheism/Religion Discussion
« Reply #1759 on: December 22, 2012, 05:46:13 pm »

Until someone with the power does that, I would like to tread a little new ground.

The following is not being proposed as true or probable. Set phasers to hypothetical.

Christian theist persons:
Suppose that it were discovered that we are indeed living in a simulation. Now suppose that the creator of this simulation goes by the username YHWH, and he* fully admits to having made the Bible authors write the Bible, and Jesus was an avatar under his full control.

Would you worship him? If not, why? What would he lack?

My own answer:
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*It’s obvious God is a guy.
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Re: Atheism/Religion Discussion
« Reply #1760 on: December 22, 2012, 05:47:57 pm »

I would ask him to set my enemies on fire and then forget that I asked him to set my enemies on fire. He would probably decline, too. I make enemies for the pettiest of reasons.
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« Reply #1761 on: December 22, 2012, 05:54:43 pm »

If all those things a re true? it depends, how fancy is this simulation? is it possible its so advanced that we can still pick? assuming we can then yes I would

I worship him and give thanks for making me, it dont matter if Im 1's and 0's or flesh and blood the point is he made me, thats why I worship.

How EVER if it turned out he never wanted us to be like this? then maybe I'd talk to him causally but I'd still be thank ful and have respect for him.

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Re: Atheism/Religion Discussion
« Reply #1762 on: December 22, 2012, 05:56:57 pm »

Then we need to find them and eat them, so that we may gain their power.
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« Reply #1763 on: December 22, 2012, 05:59:30 pm »

Or at least cram them into a small space called a "reserve", then hunt them for shits and giggles.
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« Reply #1764 on: December 22, 2012, 06:05:11 pm »

I'm confident that we can tread new ground here. It might only happen like a third of the time, but I think it's worth wading through some circular snapiness. That said...

Being an awful troll really does make it easier to ignore your silly unrelated rambles, friend.

Cut this out. If you think he's a troll, ignore him or message me about him. Saying it in the thread like this only pisses people off and stirs up more drama.

@Fenrir's question
I would worship him if he wanted to be worshiped. I wouldn't be happy about it, but he's pretty much capable of holding a gun up to everyone's head.

There's a reason there's nobody who believes in God but but intentionally does not worship him out of pride or whatever. Except maybe stereotypical satanists, I guess? I don't think those actually exist, though. I'm pretty sure my high school religion teacher just made them up to prove a point.

Just wondering, if it turned out aliens had made humans...?

On the other hand, I don't think this would necessitate worship. Gratitude definitely, as long as they didn't create us as a slave race or something. I wouldn't expect any sentient creature I made to worship me. I'd hope they'd have created us as equals.
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« Reply #1765 on: December 22, 2012, 06:38:11 pm »

Penguinofhonor, you can find someone who believes anything, and that's just humanity. Admittedly, whenever anything expands, so do people jumping on it.
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Re: Atheism/Religion Discussion
« Reply #1766 on: December 22, 2012, 11:16:04 pm »

Yeah, if it turned out we were designed for something other than slavery or food or something like that, I think I'd go along the same lines as you, treating them with gratitude, but not outright worship.
Yeah, that makes sense.

To add to your list of negative things, what if they designed us just to fuck with us.
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Re: Atheism/Religion Discussion
« Reply #1767 on: December 22, 2012, 11:19:49 pm »

Yeah, if it turned out we were designed for something other than slavery or food or something like that, I think I'd go along the same lines as you, treating them with gratitude, but not outright worship.
Yeah, that makes sense.

To add to your list of negative things, what if they designed us just to fuck us. Perverts.
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« Reply #1768 on: December 22, 2012, 11:21:14 pm »

Something I always wonder about is if there is a purpose to a hypothetical God's existence. If God is truly omniscient and knows all possible outcomes. Why bother doing anything about it? Why guide humans when you gain nothing out of it, even a new experience?
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Re: Atheism/Religion Discussion
« Reply #1769 on: December 22, 2012, 11:22:14 pm »

One of many problems with omniscience. Pretty much all omni- traits bring severe logical problems.
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