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Total Members Voted: 20

[10ebbor10]

Misko, we could team up, the AI seems excellent for cyber warfare.

And yeah, we really need a good design for our mars/lunar base.
We could even start up a forum game just for fun if we had a base design.

What little plans I had involved a base dug into the ground, with a nuclear reactor. Using electrolysis of water to create both Hydrogen(rocket fuel) and oxygen.

And that's about it.

[Helgoland]

Misko, we could team up, the AI seems excellent for cyber warfare.

And yeah, we really need a good design for our mars/lunar base.
We could even start up a forum game just for fun if we had a base design.

What little plans I had involved a base dug into the ground, with a nuclear reactor. Using electrolysis of water to create both Hydrogen(rocket fuel) and oxygen.

And that's about it.

But when using the hydrogen as rocket fuel the oxygen has to be used as well...
How about oxygen recycling and replenishing our supplies with oxygen from metal ores to counterbalance the unavoidable losses? That would have the benefit of giving us loads of metal to do stuff with.

[TopHat]

I agree with the changes to the military. Please can you consult with me next time beforehand?
So then, Military position list:
Head of Operations (TopHat) LvL1
Head of The Unconventional Warfare Department(10ebbor10) LvL2
-Head of Zoological Warfare(GreatWyrmGold)
Head of The Airforce (helgoland)LvL2
-Head of Bomber Command (vacant) LvL3
-Head of Fighter Command (vacant) LvL3
Head of The Engineering Corps (vorthon)LvL2
Head of Defensive Operations (vacant)LvL2
Head of The (space) Navy (vacant)LvL2
-Head of Civilian Auxiliary Craft (cargo ships, etc) (vacant) LvL3
Head of Ground Forces (vacant)LvL2
-Head of Armoured Corps (vacant) LvL3
-Head of Infantry (vacant)LvL3
Some Random Tiebreaker(GreatWyrmGold)LvLn/a
Any other positions ideas?
The LvL is the place in the Chain Of Command (LvL1 is the top(hat), lvl2 is below, etc)

[misko27]

I agree with the changes to the military. Please can you consult with me next time beforehand?
So then, Military position list:
Head of Operations (TopHat) LvL1
Head of The Unconventional Warfare Department(10ebbor10) LvL2
Head of The Airforce (helgoland)LvL2
-Head of Bomber Command (vacant) LvL3
-Head of Fighter Command (vacant) LvL3
Head of The Engineering Corps (vorthon)LvL2
Head of Defensive Operations (vacant)LvL2
Head of The (space) Navy (vacant)LvL2
-Head of Civilian Auxiliary Craft (cargo ships, etc) (vacant) LvL3
Head of Ground Forces (vacant)LvL2
-Head of Armoured Corps (vacant) LvL3
-Head of Infantry (vacant)LvL3
Any other positions ideas?
The LvL is the place in the Chain Of Command (LvL1 is the top(hat), lvl2 is below, etc)

Yay! I love when people do most of my work fo me!

[TopHat]

Also, I will act as a tiebreaker in any discussions, to account for the 6 sub-department heads.
As for 'your work', I am the department head. That's my job.
Will MADPLANS keep It's name?

[GreatWyrmGold]

I already volunteered as tiebreaker!

She seemed lukewarm towards the program, I'll see what I can do to get her registered at Bay12. Obviously, I'm not going to use real names.

Ninjad: Couldn't we bring it up in pieces and assemble it in space, like we did with the ISS?

Okay, thats good. Out of curiousity, did you actually say that there is a program of forumers who are planning to conquer mars? At least she doesn't appear to know what Bay 12 is.

I mentioned it.

I can take the position of "sane fifth and tie-breaker. I could also lead zoological warfare.

[Graknorke]

I'll take either bomber or fighter command.
I'm British.
It's genetic.

[TopHat]

I already volunteered as tiebreaker!

She seemed lukewarm towards the program, I'll see what I can do to get her registered at Bay12. Obviously, I'm not going to use real names.

Ninjad: Couldn't we bring it up in pieces and assemble it in space, like we did with the ISS?

Okay, thats good. Out of curiousity, did you actually say that there is a program of forumers who are planning to conquer mars? At least she doesn't appear to know what Bay 12 is.

I mentioned it.

I can take the position of "sane fifth and tie-breaker. I could also lead zoological warfare.

Oops. Sorry, editing. Zoological Warfare comes under Unconventional.

[Helgoland]

I believe space navy and air force should be combined - they're similar enough, and the air force would probably need to closely cooperate with the space navy. Also there's similarities in the education of pilots, similarities in the necessary maintenance work, etc.

This applies of course only to the military part of the space navy, not our merchant fleet.

I'll take either bomber or fighter command.
I'm British.
It's genetic.

Hooray! You can't win a war without the British, you know

[10ebbor10]

I believe space navy and air force should be combined - they're similar enough, and the air force would probably need to closely cooperate with the space navy. Also there's similarities in the education of pilots, similarities in the necessary maintenance work, etc.

This applies of course only to the military part of the space navy, not our merchant fleet.

I'll take either bomber or fighter command.
I'm British.
It's genetic.

Hooray! You can't win a war without the British, you know

Actually, not. Space fights will be way more similair with submarine combat than airfights.

[Helgoland]

I believe space navy and air force should be combined - they're similar enough, and the air force would probably need to closely cooperate with the space navy. Also there's similarities in the education of pilots, similarities in the necessary maintenance work, etc.

This applies of course only to the military part of the space navy, not our merchant fleet.

I'll take either bomber or fighter command.
I'm British.
It's genetic.

Hooray! You can't win a war without the British, you know

Actually, not. Space fights will be way more similair with submarine combat than airfights.

Submarines can't maneuver that quickly, and combat in the third dimension is already part of dogfighting; however, there still are some differences because of the way acceleration takes place. Still a skilled plane pilot would make at least a better-than-average space pilot. Evading missiles and all that jazz.

What about the oxygen-from-ores idea mentioned below? Could you run a few feasibility calculations?

[GreatWyrmGold]

Space combat will be like nothing seen before. Calculate where an enemy will be when your attack gets to him, launch an attack with a tragectory calculated to intersect the enemy's, avoid enemy attacks, pray you don't run out of reaction mass first, never see a glimpse of your enemy except through instruments...

[10ebbor10]

I believe space navy and air force should be combined - they're similar enough, and the air force would probably need to closely cooperate with the space navy. Also there's similarities in the education of pilots, similarities in the necessary maintenance work, etc.

This applies of course only to the military part of the space navy, not our merchant fleet.

I'll take either bomber or fighter command.
I'm British.
It's genetic.

Hooray! You can't win a war without the British, you know

Actually, not. Space fights will be way more similair with submarine combat than airfights.

Submarines can't maneuver that quickly, and combat in the third dimension is already part of dogfighting; however, there still are some differences because of the way acceleration takes place. Still a skilled plane pilot would make at least a better-than-average space pilot. Evading missiles and all that jazz.

What about the oxygen-from-ores idea mentioned below? Could you run a few feasibility calculations?

However, the distance between the combatants are far larger. Therefore, it all evens out. Space combat will be based on being unpredictable to your opponents, making tactical decision to stay hidden(mostly through decoys) and making precise manoevers, as well as managing your crew and ship. Reflexes are not usefull at all when missiles take half an hour to reach your ship.

As for the Oxygen thingy, probably quite feasible, as most of the oxygen is going to be recycled by our food production. The deficit should be quite small.

[GreatWyrmGold]

The deficit is from burning fuel, and how would you hide in space? Decoys would need to fire weapons and move like normal spacecraft to work.
...And what weapons will we use? Most projectile weapons would be point-defensed out of existence.

[miauw62]

Still, as long as there IS a deficit, we need to make extra oxygen.
And i think space combat will mainly rely on large ships (think star trek) and much less fighters.
But on the other side i think that its very unpredictable how space combat will be. Mayby there wont be space combat AT ALL because its too hard and doesnt have any major benefits beside the rule of cool.