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[Hapah]

PFP

Should we extend to try to build consensus or just run with it? We've only got about an hour and a half.

If extend isn't gonna go and it looks like votes aren't moving I'll vote BMC to stop possible enchant sillyness.

[ToonyMan]

The player I was voting for went up for replacement so I'd most likely want an extend to sort things out.

[Bookthras]

I've been busy myself; I would like an extension as well.

[Hapah]

I made it! Extend.

Dinner now, post later.

[Mephansteras]

The Whiteboard
Jim Groovester: Dariush, blackmagechill
Mr. Dwarfinton: Toaster
ToonyMan: Bookthras
Tiruin: Hapah, ToonyMan
blackmagechill: Jim Groovester, Mr. Dwarfinton, Tiruin


Day has been Extended to ~5pm Pacific Friday. There will be no more Extensions this day.

[Hapah]

Time got away from me, apologies.

....glad we're putting the extend to good use?

[Tiruin]

Time got away from me, apologies.

....glad we're putting the extend to good use?

I agree.


Alright, so answering any questions directed to UI which I think I can answer in the next post, and my post after that next. As a note, first time player of a Paranormal Mafia so if there's any questions I've missed that are actually related, hit me.

Unvote

[Hapah]

Alright. I'll have something to read in the morning with my coffee!

[Tiruin]

Alright, perhaps I mistimed that post. Making sense of the recent pages...PFP

Hapah, Toonyman: Could I request you both on why you voted UI again?

Toony: UI asked you this,

Spoiler: Wait, these (click to show/hide)

You mean to tell me that you went from going through everything with a fine-toothed comb to voting BMC for a D1 vote in under five minutes? Add to this the fact that it doesn't seem like you're really pushing to get anyone to vote Toony (who you claimed was the Ext), even though you claim getting the Ext is top priority? You're prodding Toony a bit, sure, but you're not actually trying to convince anyone that he's the Ext. It kinda looks like you figured out what a Townie would do, set up the scenario, and then completely forgot that you had to actually act the part.

What made you shift your vote from Toony to BMC? Do you think that a D1 vote is really that telling?

As I said earlier, if I don't know how to go about getting someone lynched, it's probably because I don't have a good case on them. So I was less suspicious of Toony (because I let the evidence inform my suspicions like that). BMC lurked through all of D1 on what is about a quarter step above a randomvote.

Also, I haven't done the fine-toothed comb thing yet - I got interrupted by RL during the "look at lurkertracker" phase.

Toony:

Nothing's changed.  I don't know what you're saying beyond "that's another scummy thing you've done".  If you're going to point out something else I said was suspicious about you it's still something to suspect.  You're putting on a show.

Nothing? I distinctly remember stating why I felt that the exterminator needs to die today. Also, you're pinning exty on me. What's different?

I'm curious how you scumhunt without questioning people yourself. Just let others do the interrogating for you and pick up the pieces?

Except that's untrue.  You're being suspicious as fuck (Hapah's post above me is more evidence too).  I'm going to rejudge the situation and place my vote on you Urist Imik since I'm 99% sure you're the exty.  This goes in thanks to:

Going to? Sounds like you did. [/joke]

Your behavior.  It's contradictory.

Explain how my behavior is contradictory.
[/quote]

Could you explain on those grounds?

Same goes to Hapah, because I can't find anypost in there that I could answer as it seems they're based more on attitude than on scumminess.

Also (excuse me if I don't get a few roles):

If extend isn't gonna go and it looks like votes aren't moving I'll vote BMC to stop possible enchant sillyness.

So why would you shift to BMC other than your target? And...doesn't enchanting work at night?

[Hapah]

Dar: See the bottom of the post for reasons for voting UI. Also, I think they're both scum, but hoping that one is the ext and another a dopp is probably overly optimistic. Do you think one, both, or neither of them are scum?

Tir:

So why would you shift to BMC other than your target? And...doesn't enchanting work at night?

Enchanters just get an extra vote. Jim had to explain it to me in reply 89, actually. I put that bit below.

The extra vote is hidden, and it can be turned on and off with a PM to Meph.

I.E., if the vote looks something like this,

JanusTwoface: Hapah, ToonyMan, Pandarsenic
webadict: webadict, forsaken1111, Jim Groovester, NUKE9.13

At the end of the day, it would be a no lynch, but as far as everybody else knew up to that point, WUBA DUBA would've been strung up.

So another vote on BMC gives him 4 votes and the next closest 2, so even if there is an enchanter in the audience he couldn't change how things would happen.

As for why I voted UI: For stating that lynching dopps is a secondary concern to lynching the ext (because it could potentially put the town in a no-win situation), he sure isn't pushing a case. He spent the time to put together some scenarios of how the game could turn out (disregarding non-kill actions). He spent the time to lay out all of his suspicions, pinning Toony as his primary Ext suspect. But there's no pressure. It feels like he figured out how a townie should act/be afraid of, made the post, and then forgot he had to actually act the part. I mean, he said that an Ext lynch is critical, laid out Toony as a suspect, and then nothing. No real attacks on Toony, no attempts to get people to lynch Toony, no explaining his case, nothing.

Taken with the fact that he makes what looks like (to me at least) a rather panicked post once he realizes the error, he pukes up a vote on BMC in less than five minutes, for a D1 vote. We're this far into D2, and he's going to try to get BMC lynched because of a randomvote D1? Really?

[Mr. Dwarfinton]

I am truly sorry about this but I will be needing a replacement. Good luck with catching scum and all that stuff.

[ToonyMan]

Toony: UI asked you this,

Spoiler: Wait, these (click to show/hide)

You mean to tell me that you went from going through everything with a fine-toothed comb to voting BMC for a D1 vote in under five minutes? Add to this the fact that it doesn't seem like you're really pushing to get anyone to vote Toony (who you claimed was the Ext), even though you claim getting the Ext is top priority? You're prodding Toony a bit, sure, but you're not actually trying to convince anyone that he's the Ext. It kinda looks like you figured out what a Townie would do, set up the scenario, and then completely forgot that you had to actually act the part.

What made you shift your vote from Toony to BMC? Do you think that a D1 vote is really that telling?

As I said earlier, if I don't know how to go about getting someone lynched, it's probably because I don't have a good case on them. So I was less suspicious of Toony (because I let the evidence inform my suspicions like that). BMC lurked through all of D1 on what is about a quarter step above a randomvote.

Also, I haven't done the fine-toothed comb thing yet - I got interrupted by RL during the "look at lurkertracker" phase.

Toony:

Nothing's changed.  I don't know what you're saying beyond "that's another scummy thing you've done".  If you're going to point out something else I said was suspicious about you it's still something to suspect.  You're putting on a show.

Nothing? I distinctly remember stating why I felt that the exterminator needs to die today. Also, you're pinning exty on me. What's different?

I'm curious how you scumhunt without questioning people yourself. Just let others do the interrogating for you and pick up the pieces?

Except that's untrue.  You're being suspicious as fuck (Hapah's post above me is more evidence too).  I'm going to rejudge the situation and place my vote on you Urist Imik since I'm 99% sure you're the exty.  This goes in thanks to:

Going to? Sounds like you did. [/joke]

Your behavior.  It's contradictory.

Explain how my behavior is contradictory.
[/quote]

Could you explain on those grounds?

The first question I couldn't understand anymore and since he went up for replacement I didn't feel like I could get a response out of him.  The second isn't really a question.

Why are the only things you're questioning the players that attacked you?  With a new replacement slate you should have lynch vote for the day.

Time got away from me, apologies.

....glad we're putting the extend to good use?

So sorry for going to sleep last night.

I am truly sorry about this but I will be needing a replacement. Good luck with catching scum and all that stuff.

We'll miss you.

[ToonyMan]

Hapah, Toonyman: Could I request you both on why you voted UI again?

I made an informative post here.

[Bookthras]

Apologies for lack of posting, I've been pretty busy this last couple of days.

In brief: I think BMC is scum, but I don't think he's the Ext. It would be much, much better if we can nail the Ext, but given the current votes and time to end the day a new consensus doesn't seem likely. Therefore, and to avoid ties or enchanting shenanigans, I vote blackmagechill.


As to the rest:
Dariush, Hapah, and maybe Tiruin/UI are also likely dopp candidates.
Toony and Jim are my main Ext suspicions. I don't think it is Tiruin/UI, my reasoning on Jim is posted, but mostly Toony's evasiveness earlier in the game seems to match his scum meta very strongly. Hapah is also a possibility.

[Mephansteras]

The Whiteboard
Jim Groovester: Dariush, blackmagechill
Mr. Dwarfinton: Toaster
Tiruin: Hapah, ToonyMan
blackmagechill: Bookthras, Jim Groovester, Mr. Dwarfinton


Day end ~5pm Pacific today. There will be no more extensions for this day.

Mr. Dwarfinton has requested a replacement.