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[SirAaronIII]

I heard Dark Templar had pretty low damage but focused more on holds and grouping, but never noticed when I was watching my friend play. He didn't get that far though. I heard Chaos is mad OP but from that description, yeah, they sound pretty similar.

Vagabond is pretty OP. What's supposed to happen is you wield a lightsaber in each hand, but most people just use zanbatos because of the higher p.atk. That, combined with the changed hitstop from a certain skill that changes the shape of her off-hand qigong sword (it's weird), lets you just mash X til you win. Helps that they have a great normal attack chain. The one issue is they wear leather armor which means that if you don't destroy a super-armored enemy quickly, you'll probably take a lot of damage.

Sword Master is basically Blade/Weapon Master from male slayer, but they don't focus as much on changing weapons mid-combat and can't use lightsabers. From what I heard, it seemed that bludgeon was the best for leveling up and shortsword was best after getting the proper chronicle gears.

And I heard Demon Slayer wasn't as bad as people say. The main issue was that most of her moves scatter mobs making it annoying for the rest of the party to destroy them. She reportedly becomes amazing after a buff patch recently released in kDNF, but we're probably not gonna get that until after some second awakenings.

In other news, Neople put a teaser picture for Forgotten Island on their Facebook. It's another non-fatiguing area that you can go to from Underfoot starting from level 25 daily, with another chance after you use 100 FP. You have 30 minutes to run around a large dungeon-type thing clearing rooms and slaying mobs/bosses. What's interesting is that you can use some crystals or something that drop there to buy exclusive equipment, like...

• magic stones that boost each element's damage by 12; keep in mind there are also unique and epic stones that give 30 and 45 element damage too, but they are much harder to get
  
• a magic stone that boosts every element's damage by
• a necklace that gives a 5% chance to buff your strength stat by 11% for 30 seconds. Not sure on exact numbers but the bottom line is it's a percentage stat boost which is probably pretty huge.
• an experience boosting potion that lasts for 5 dungeons

There will be some daily limited quests there too, and the experience rewards are good.

And in completely different news, I realized that since the Saint Horn channels are cross-server, that means I can go do OVs and ancients with you guys! I'm a total newbie at those though, having never passed 50 in the old versions. I should probably try to get to 85 on my f.ranger first before I try anything exciting. Or get to 85 on another character because f.ranger is pretty difficult.

[Sindain]

I've been leveling a Dark Templar and yeah, they have a lot of holds. I heard as well that they're supposed to be the lowest damage of the f. slayer classes but with a +11 phoenix weapon (too lazy/poor to go for +12) I've been clearing rooms in 1-2 abilities anyway. Even now that I'm in Ghent ultimate I still have a pretty easy time killing things.

Not impressed by her awakening though...

And in completely different news, I realized that since the Saint Horn channels are cross-server, that means I can go do OVs and ancients with you guys! I'm a total newbie at those though, having never passed 50 in the old versions. I should probably try to get to 85 on my f.ranger first before I try anything exciting. Or get to 85 on another character because f.ranger is pretty difficult.

Huh, never knew the Saint Horn channels were cross-server.

You don't really need to be 85 to run OV. I mean it helps, but there are a fair many of people running it in the 70s or so. Particularly right now as quite a few low 70 f. slayers are starting to creep into OV.
If the spreadsheet is right and your F. ranger is 80 that should be plenty high to start running OV. Though ranger is kinda infamously dependent on good weapons so I would recommend getting a +10 80 unique or a +11 80 rare weapon first.

[Aklyon]

I heard Dark Templar had pretty low damage but focused more on holds and grouping, but never noticed when I was watching my friend play. He didn't get that far though. I heard Chaos is mad OP but from that description, yeah, they sound pretty similar.

For Chaos, you summon your doods, and they last significant time, similar to Panzer Hodor's staying time in lowlevel F.Mage. You can fight perfectly fine sans doods, but unless its tower-style summon-per-floor things, you really are missing out on damage by not doing so.

And then you charge at the enemy with your miniarmy (in nonboss rooms) and kill things with spinning and minions, or attack with other attacks while they also beat crap up. Later (probably a resummon later, unless you're going especially fast) you either nuke the shit out of the boss (if you can aim genocide crush well, I'm terrible at that), or you beat up on them like you do most other things.

Can't say if theres any major change for past 60 yet, however.

Edit: I think it uses mostly fixed damage as well. May be misremembering there.

[Jay]

Another not-new-to-me game to put into my neverending queue of new games to play.

It sounds like a lot has changed since the old days, so I'll probably have fun with this..  soon.

[Facekillz058]

Finally got into the game. It's fun but really challenging before you figure it out, that's for certain.
The whole 'You can only make 2 characters a day' thing kind of sucks. I shouldn't have to make four accounts or wait a week to try all the classes in a reasonable amount of time, but whatever. I have a gunner and a fighter and i'm getting enough fun out of those. Probably gonna give Mage/Priest and Dark Knight/Thief a go today, then the other two tomorrow. The slayers, knight, and creator don't really interest me at all.

Turns out Dark Knight is my favorite thing ever. Darkness as a weapon of good? Yes please. Combo system? I'll take it!

[Kaitol]

Yeah, dark knight and creator are sort of the odd couple of characters to lure a wider audience in. dark knight is for fans of more complex fighting games as opposed to regular beat em ups. Whereas creator is a "girlfriend" character. Something really simple anyone can pick up and play even if they've never vidya gamed before in their lives and are also terrible at it.

[Aklyon]

Creator is also for people who want an extra character for farming, the last I'd seen of them.

[TempAcc]

Impossible to play due to the hack shield, it pops up even more often now then ever. I thought that would get better after the official release, but it got worse :v

[Aklyon]

Impossible to play due to the hack shield, it pops up even more often now then ever. I thought that would get better after the official release, but it got worse :v

It cleared up fine for me, is it still showing the program detected or whatever error? if it is, send them an email with the log attached and you get a reply almost immediately decoding what you had open that it didn't like. (Process Explorer, for example. Or skype for some odd reason)

[TempAcc]

Yea, it does seem to despise skype, I'll send the log in and see what happens. It seems to absolutely despise chrome, for me at least.
Maybe its the digital signature recognition software I use, which I cant do away with cuz work and etc.

[SirAaronIII]

Strange, I have Skype and Chrome open 100% of the time I play, but I've never had a problem before.

[Aklyon]

Strange, I have Skype and Chrome open 100% of the time I play, but I've never had a problem before.

It also had an issue with me having the Soulstorm folder open once, when I was upgrading the guild level before. (well, more specifically some random file in the folder. The point is, it was rather questionable why that would cause a problem when Soulstorm wasn't open at the time.)

[Kaitol]

*Decides to try Vagabond because why not*

Fucking doing double the damage of my level 56 Demon slayer at goddamn level 30.

*Begins swearing profusely because I was so close to finishing my level challenge on my demon slayer, but playing it is now physically painful*

[defeeca]

yup thats vagabond alright. but its not even bad try out priest subclass avenger and become immortal.

most fun class has been monk and oddly its the thing im leveling out fastest cause it even has catched up to my vagabond

[Kaitol]

*claws way to level 61 demon slayer, completes level challenge*

*only then realizes to get both parts of the underwear avatar set you needed to do the 70 challenge*

I mean, I wasn't planning on wearing it really, but just having half of it sitting in my inventory looking at me with those reproachful eyes is going to drive me crazy... plus having parts to mix and match with other avatar bits is nice. Curses. No fucking way can I get another character to 70 though, even if it wasn't one per account.