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[Meph]

I think if you want trade and siege, just take away their snatcher tag, and make their ethics quite different  from dwarves. This way you might have allies, you might have foes.

Why would you align the graphics to the raws, just for overall cleanlyness ? (hope that is indeed an english word) And I think its funny that you suddenly show up now. I have only 10 days left till my return to germany, and wanted to start on my MDF2 then.

[Deon]

Deon I had a thought.
How about two orc races!
Feral orcs-seige
civil orcs-Trade goods
or something like that.

There's no orc race anymore. At least for now. There're barbarians which consist of different subraces, including orcs!

Why would you align the graphics to the raws, just for overall cleanlyness ?

Because I try to organize everything as much as I want for now, for easier tweaking in future.

[Deon]

Genesis 4.2 is out.

- Removed animal people (before adding new minor and major races).
- Minor tweaks here and there.
- Phoebus graphical version.

[Deon]

Genesis 4.3 is out.

- Anatomical theater, alchemical workshop, library, scriptorium and training crutch are avaliable now (I forgot to add them to dwarves).
- Ironworks is back: crucible, finishing forge and charcoal furnace, and new ways to make steel.
- Coarse iron is back too: iron from ore is coarse and cannot be used for weapons or armor. Hammer it in finishing forge to get weapon/armor-grade iron.
- Material rebalance. Metal values have been tweaked, to return the old Genesis feel.
- Different pewters are simplified to a "pewter".
- Added moonsilver, an alloy of silver and aluminum. It has qualities of iron.
- Undead race has resistance to most materials and has weakness to moonsilver.
- New semimegabeast - draugr. It's an undead who lives in cold climates in barrows, wields weapons and hunts those who disturb his sleep. It has great resistance to most materials and weakness to moonsilver.

[Deon]

Wait a bit please, DFFD is weird and times out. I will reupload it as soon as it's back up.

[EDIT] It is back again, you can download now.

[Deon]

4.4 is out.
- Undead race is now called "fallen".
- Fallen have  common, revenants, liches and shamblers.
- Revenants can cast a "lifebreak" ability which disorients an enemy and brings pain.
- Cooldowns on lich spells (curse and reanimate dead) are greatly increased.
- New graphics for fallen.
- Added spriggans. They can turn into a tree for a short period of time to fully regenerate.
- Added wendigo. They are undead, so moonsilver should work great against them too.
- Fixed enormous spawn rates of giants in glacier/tundra.

[Dohon]

You be pump'n em out, cap'n! Keep up the good work!

[Sprin]

deon I salute you and your mod

[Deon]

Sorry for being slow, as I said I have a lot of work and my job is tiring, but nonetheless I spend my breaks and free time on DF again now . I need to add tons of fantasy creatures. Griffons, hippogriffs, different insectoids and all sorts of enemies I had before, rebalanced. That's the reason I culled mundane wildlife and removed all too specific animals: it may be interesting to hunt great horned owls, chinchilla men and copperhead snakes, but I'd rather have some wolves, deer, cows etc. as a wildlife for your hunters, and fill the rest of the wandering creature list with forest spiders, treants, centaurs and the like.

[TomiTapio]

I like treants and ents too. The Wren Men and Thrips Men are just really boring.
I'm currently chopping dingos and wolves and raptors, testing my OldGenesis balance.

Deon, have you read my OldGenesis changelog, any of those changes getting ported over to Genesis 4? My current raws are http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8967397/OldGen%20ironhand%20inprogress%20raws.zip
for example,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

- wagon's trade capacity nerfed, since 3-wagon caravan offered to carry away 42 TONS of our gold statues (1200kg each). Animals' capacities reduced too.
- new reactions at furniture shop: dismantle wooden cage, dismantle wooden barrel. Very handy if have bought loads of cages. (protip: melt imported metal cages for metal.)
- added "melt ice boulders" and "press water from [seven] plants" at the screw press, thanks to Malecus for those.

- new positions: psychiatrist is now a Thoughtbearer, carries important thoughts to and from citizens. At 25 citizens Thoughtbearer becomes a Shaman. At 80 citizens Shaman becomes a Spirittalker. But is still mostly consoling grumpy dorfs.
- grand treasurer and hoardmaster now have higher population requirement.  110 and 180.
- medical positions are now "beard doctor" followed by "bone-fixer" at 65 population. Ain't got no "chief commerce dwarf" and "chief beancounter dwarf" titles.
- a Library now needs a lamp and chair too to build.
- added easily domesticated Fisher Marten, like a polecat: (Size 3.0-9.0, quadruped) A medium-sized weasel that hunts on the temperate forest floor. They are sexually dimorphic predators with males being substantially larger than females.

- no longer can make furnaces and smelters of goodwood (used to be fire-safe by accident)
- new reaction at stonecutter's: craft magmasafe blocks (which are required for craft rock anvil.)
- craft wooden staff, craft wooden spear. Both at furniture shop, both require fairwood or goodwood. But for traps use wooden trapcomp BLUDGEON not wooden staff. Staff is balanced for humanoid use and lighter.
- new kitchen reactions: feed meat (incl.offal) to pets, feed fat to pets, feed tallow to pets. For more realism, and get rid of excess meat&fat. No skill required on dwarf doing this. You lose a little bit of wealth, but hey, bulldogs gotta eat.

My not-yet-released changes' changelog entry:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

.11d changes, 2012-08-01 to
- ascii: three vermin tile fixes.
- Ironhand: wax worker dorf no longer blue.
- Baldur monk a little bit rarer and few less biomes.
- bones heal slower now. (had an adventurer too speedy recovery.)
- dogs have a [CAN_DO_INTERACTION:BP_BUMP] now, go see it in adventurer mode towns.

- tiny bit less pain, so first dagger hit to guts doesn't pain-faint.
- stone clan dwarves personality adjusted.

- picks are now much worse as weapons. Use a weapon. (protip: take woodcutting and mining labors away from unhappiest dorfs.)
- boosted warhammer and maul and cobra mace.
- adjusted twohand and onehand use requirements of flail, battleaxe, greataxe, maul, crude maul, pike, spear, crude spear, halberd. Because dwarves are of varying height and width.
- can now forge Great Axes.

- a Library now needs a lamp and chair too to build.
- added easily domesticated Fisher Marten, like a polecat: (Size 3.0-9.0, quadruped) A medium-sized weasel that hunts on the temperate forest floor. They are sexually dimorphic predators with males being substantially larger than females.
- no longer can make furnaces and smelters of goodwood (used to be fire-safe by accident)
- crossbows are a tiny bit better at shooting.
- crossbow skill xp down a little.
- more Ent encounters.
- some more animals to have suede instead of thick leather. Rule of thumb: predators don't need a thick hide to protect from predators.

- new positions: psychiatrist is now a Thoughtbearer, carries important thoughts to and from citizens. At 25 citizens Thoughtbearer becomes a Shaman. At 80 citizens Shaman becomes a Spirittalker. But is still mostly consoling grumpy dorfs.
- grand treasurer and hoardmaster now have higher population requirement.  110 and 180.
- medical positions are now "beard doctor" followed by "bone-fixer" at 65 population. Ain't got no "chief commerce dwarf" and "chief beancounter dwarf" titles.

- new reactions at furniture shop: dismantle wooden cage, dismantle wooden barrel. Very handy if have bought loads of cages. (protip: melt imported metal cages for metal.)
- some furniture shop and grinder shop tuning.

- new reaction at nature altar: make ice boulders using nether-cap(the magically cold wood) and air moisture. Also, altar now gives fungi-type wood, not outdoors wood.
- swimming pool: reaction "add ice". For flavour.
- added "melt ice boulders" and "press water from [seven] plants" at the screw press, thanks to Malecus for those.

- new: [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:FURMAMMAL_MATERIALS] --for mammals that yield luxury fur.
- furs are like suede leather, but 4x value. Crap as armor. Assigned to most of the animals that furcanada-dot-com listed for sale. and then leopard jaguar lion panda gorilla tiger.
- added a zebra creature to the tropics, for its fur. Smaller than horses, but faster.
- hippos got more dangerous.

- wagon's trade capacity nerfed, since 3-wagon caravan offered to carry away 42 TONS of our gold statues (1200kg each). Animals' capacities reduced too.
- bone toughness up a little bit.
- Galena yields minor Nickel too now.
- Garnierite(nickel ore) has 6% iron now.
- slight viewrange changes in dwarf castes. Jade, Aspid, Obsidian improved a little.
- ichor and blood materialvalue to zero for now. Caravans still bring blood! Blood back to 1.
- dunedweller caravan comes later.

TODO weapon metal mechanisms. coarse iron blunts. ammo-metal staff? NIckel mace, nickel hammer. Nickel mail.
TODO ichor and blood sac...
TODO use [CRAZED] token. make two new crazed beasts.
todo halibut, salmon, mahi-mahi, crappie, flounder, walleye, arctic char.

[Deon]

Oh how I've missed you when I worked on the basis of Genesis 4 .

I will get most of your tweaks which do not touch something which is not yet in (wagons, bones, bumping dogs etc).

For the next version I have:
- New vermin: moths, you can breed them in hives like bees and they produce coccoons which you turn into silk thread (in craftsman's workshop).
- Griffons.
- Treants for temperate forests.
- Chief medical dwarf is called "sage".
- Psychiatrist.

I will call psychiatrist different, but I don't want a tribal feel here (dwarves are more civilized, even while being raving mad maniacs). I think I will call him philosopher.

I'm about to start working on castes for dwarves, nords and dalesmen. Then I will probably release it and start working on dragonsteel and more dragon varieties.
I also need to add more undead (probably to evil regions, what do you think?) to make moonsteel more attractive to make.

[TomiTapio]

Oh how I've missed you when I worked on the basis of Genesis 4 .

I'm a right fountain of ideas, I am :´]
Not so good with 20-hour projects.

I'm about to start working on castes for dwarves, nords and dalesmen. Then I will probably release it and start working on dragonsteel and more dragon varieties.
I also need to add more undead (probably to evil regions, what do you think?) to make moonsteel more attractive to make.

So... two sieging undead civilizations methinks. A weaker one(skeletor, zombi-gnome) that comes early, and an armored undead army(hellknight, ghost, that wendigo) that comes at 140+ population. I'd also like quicklings (halfling of 4x speed). http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Quicklings_%283.5e_Race%29
For jungles, a plant-material beast that is a tangle of vines. (Roper, grimeling etc.)

Beasts that are only in good or evil biomes often play a too minor role in fort mode. There one has to choose to embark in evil area.
Gonna make beneficial potions from plants that dorfs herbalize? "mushroom salve" speeding up healing... "mucus flower" "sli-mellion" "lion's tail" "tiger petal"(sharpens the senses)

[Deon]

Hmm, the undead are quite armored now, but not too much. They are like "walking corpses", so no skeletons or something. The lore is that there's a dark influence which can bring anyone affected to life and make them to slowly lose their memories and become mad. At first they were put together in reservations, which led to a forming of undead kingdoms which decided to "recruit" more members by attacking the living, their former nations which are now forgotten for them.

I agree about only good/evil creatures rarily showing up, that's why I make griffons, treants and the like to appear everywhere. Evil areas will have a lot of undead, and good areas will have magic-casting creatures.

I plan to rework farming and alchemy a bit later, with different potions and food with effects.
We think in the same direction .

I also should start working on caves. The first layer should be fairly tame, with slimes and strange greatures. Pekyt will probably appear again. The second layers should have undead and dangerous creatures, and the third should have crystal creatures.

[Deon]

Speaking of dragons, this is the list of "DnD Dragon Deities" which inspires me into making a lot of different dragon types: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_deities .

I still haven't decided the full process of making of dragonsteel, it should probably require magma and some alchemy work. It will be a strong alloy potent against dragon, since dragons are another major threat after undead.

[Tirion]

I hope we'll see some tweaking in vampires, and clouds/weather too. Like beer rain in good areas in Masterwork mod.