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I consider it an essential part of Dwaf Fortress, and can't play without it.

119 (18.4%)

I use it for pretty screenshots, but otherwise don't use it during play.

211 (32.7%)

I only try it occasionally.

174 (27%)

I have no idea why I'm even in this thread, I don't use it.

141 (21.9%)

Total Members Voted: 642

[Socharis]

Pretty sure any limit that was there before is gone now.

Hmm.  The latest DFHack version has a binary that was last modified 3/14/2013, and that one doesn't seem to grow any larger than 100 tiles.  Is there a different, more recent one I should be using instead?

[Socharis]

I took a look at the stonesense source code, and it looks like these lines are preventing it from breaching 100 (Config.cpp):

    if( line.find("[SEGMENTSIZE_XY") != -1) {
        int value = parseIntFromLine( "SEGMENTSIZE_XY", line );
        if(value < 1) {
            value = DEFAULT_SEGMENTSIZE;
        }
        if(value > 100) {
            value = 100;
        }
        //plus 2 to allow edge readings
        ssState.SegmentSize.x = value+2;
        ssState.SegmentSize.y = value+2;
    }

I may just try building my own version without this limit, since I assume it was put there for a reason.

[Rose]

Oh, that. If there's a reason for that, I don't know what it is. Feel free to remove it, and I'll remove it for the next version, sorry.

[Socharis]

No problem!

I was able to get a render of my full embark site after removing it, which was cool.  It started to grind, as you might expect with so many tiles on the screen, but it worked well enough.

[Rose]

Full embark is CTRL+F5, actually. and all Z levels is ctrl+shift+F5.

[Socharis]

Ah, excellent!  The screen shots are nice (and that explains how people were able to get full embark shots!), but I also like watching the embark site update in real-ish time with the larger viewport.

Thanks again!

[PeridexisErrant]

Caldifr - any progress on the overlay, or estimates of when it might be done?  I'm only impatient because it looked so awesome...

[Caldfir]

Caldifr - any progress on the overlay, or estimates of when it might be done?  I'm only impatient because it looked so awesome...

Well, the overlay itself is finished (at least the software-mode, which is the first step).  I'm a bit stuck trying to figure out how to display selection areas though.  Without the ability for stonesense to show you what room/plot/designation/burrow you've got selected, the game is unfortunately unplayable (unless you really know what you're doing, in which case it doesn't really fit the plan for this to be a "newbie-style-interface").  I don't actually know how much of that information dfhack already has figured out, so it's hard to give an actual time estimate. 

I know that's not too satisfying an answer, but I'll try to post updates when I know more

[PeridexisErrant]

Is the display issue that there's no art to display, or that the data on where to display it isn't there? (or both?).  Even if it's not newbie-ready yet, I'd imagine that an expert-playable alpha version could seriously encourage people to work on the missing parts through dfhack or whatever else it takes.  If it could be toggled on and off reasonably easily it could also work well just as a less immersion-breaking visualiser (particularly in fullscreen) even for newbies.  I have to admit that I'm coming up with reasons for this to release early - maybe it should have a proof of concept out before DF2013?  Perhaps knowing exactly what capabilities need to be added to dfhack for <next version> would ease development?  Many friends have sworn to start playing if a project like this becomes available, and I want to see the look on their faces...  More seriously, I wouldn't announce this in the LNP yet, but I would love to play with it and give some feedback. 

Do whatever seems best to you; the updates are great (thanks!); and I'll wait however long it is...

[Rose]

Caldifr - any progress on the overlay, or estimates of when it might be done?  I'm only impatient because it looked so awesome...

Well, the overlay itself is finished (at least the software-mode, which is the first step).  I'm a bit stuck trying to figure out how to display selection areas though.  Without the ability for stonesense to show you what room/plot/designation/burrow you've got selected, the game is unfortunately unplayable (unless you really know what you're doing, in which case it doesn't really fit the plan for this to be a "newbie-style-interface").  I don't actually know how much of that information dfhack already has figured out, so it's hard to give an actual time estimate. 

I know that's not too satisfying an answer, but I'll try to post updates when I know more

Code: [Select]

df::global::selection_rect->start_x
df::global::selection_rect->start_y
df::global::selection_rect->start_z;
Everything between that and the cursor is the selection rectangle. Courtesy Angavrilov.

[Caldfir]

Code: [Select]

df::global::selection_rect->start_x
df::global::selection_rect->start_y
df::global::selection_rect->start_z;
Everything between that and the cursor is the selection rectangle. Courtesy Angavrilov.

OK I saw that before but for some reason I thought it wasn't working although clearly it does.  Have a basic display working now (and an idea for a good way to show more clearly). 

I know where the designations are stored, so displaying those are the next thing on the list. 

Still need to figure out room/plot selections and building/construction cursors.  There would still be burrows and a few other loose ends (like displaying text that should be drawn over the screen) but those are the necessities for the game to be playable without constantly having to switch the overlay off to see what the heck you're doing. 

[Rose]

There is a way to tell what building is currently selected, and from there it's a simple matter of displaying the room coverage. There's already something similar in use for stockpiles and farm plots.

[Adventurer]

its working now, maybe because i embarked on a flat area

[Maklak]

Hi guys, I have a question. Eltrion is configuring stonesense for a pony mod. It more or less already works, but how do you add clothes to the xml file? Let's assume there are armour and helmet sprites for now. Currently there is a script that generates a 700 kB xml for hundreds of castes. Would adding worn equipment cause a combinatorial explosion of rules? Is there a manual for writing variants? It may be better if you answer in the linked thread.

[Maklak]

Let's say someone wants to adjust stonesense to some mod. Is there a script to detect any potential problems between the RAWs and xmls or is the red text when I start stonesense all there is? If there is a tool that would at least list all the creatures without sprites (without those creatures being present in-game), that would be useful.