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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1395 on: May 12, 2012, 06:35:07 pm »

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Remember, the whole statutory thing, re: couples right on the arbitrary age line. They kinda' have outlawed it in some situations.
To what extent is this prevalent nowadays? I thought that the existence of an age of consent would prevent most "statutory rape" incidents.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1396 on: May 12, 2012, 06:38:58 pm »

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Remember, the whole statutory thing, re: couples right on the arbitrary age line. They kinda' have outlawed it in some situations.
To what extent is this prevalent nowadays? I thought that the existence of an age of consent would prevent most "statutory rape" incidents.
I'm not sure what your logic is on that. The age of consent is why statutory rape is a thing in the first place. In the US it ranges from 16-18 depending on the state, and that can obviously cause some problems.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1397 on: May 12, 2012, 06:43:57 pm »

So, then, would a 16 y/o be liable to get accused of statutory if he had sex with a 15 y/o girl, for instance?
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1398 on: May 12, 2012, 06:45:26 pm »

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Remember, the whole statutory thing, re: couples right on the arbitrary age line. They kinda' have outlawed it in some situations.
To what extent is this prevalent nowadays? I thought that the existence of an age of consent would prevent most "statutory rape" incidents.
Prevalence wise, I still hear of it popping up locally relatively commonly; you'll have a couple where they're a year or two apart in age, but one of them's below the age of consent line. Someone outside the relationship objects (usually the parents of one of the involved), the cops get called in, someone gets on the sexual offender's list for the rest of their life for trying to have a relationship with a peer.

So, then, would a 16 y/o be liable to get accused of statutory if he had sex with a 15 y/o girl, for instance?
If 16 is the age of consent, yes, providing someone was willing to call it in and the cops didn't tell 'em to screw off. Which happens. E: Though do note they don't actually have to have sex! That's one of the "fun" parts of it. They just have to be unable to prove they didn't (at least in the area I'm in... maybe other parts of the states are a bit more sane with this). Good luck with that~
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1399 on: May 12, 2012, 06:50:50 pm »

So, then, would a 16 y/o be liable to get accused of statutory if he had sex with a 15 y/o girl, for instance?
If 16 is the age of consent, yes, providing someone was willing to call it in and the cops didn't tell 'em to screw off. Which happens.
Note that this can vary based upon location. Some districts have what are called "Romeo & Juliet laws", which nullify the age of consent for individuals close to one another in age.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1400 on: May 12, 2012, 06:52:17 pm »

Yeah, there's that. It's not a total universal clusterfuck situation, just... localized clusterfuck situation. It's pretty bloody ridiculous when it happens, though.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1401 on: May 13, 2012, 04:47:46 pm »

I have no clue what to think of my dad's political opinions. One minute he's calling Santorum a racist homophobe, and then the next second he's saying Romney was planned to win all along and Gingrich and Santorum were only there to draw attention away from Ron Paul.

Edit: JFK was assassinated because of his libertarian principles.
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« Reply #1402 on: May 13, 2012, 05:07:19 pm »

I'm sorry penguin, but your father is a Paulite.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1403 on: May 13, 2012, 05:09:11 pm »

Yes. That he is.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1404 on: May 14, 2012, 09:20:26 pm »

(Eh, seeing as we're slinking onto the second page...).

http://news.yahoo.com/protesters-ex-student-convicted-rutgers-webcam-case-does-173702307.html

He had the option of no jail time and turned it down. Buyer's remorse with the turning down the plea.... Drove room mate to suicide.... [sigh].

Nobody listens to the lawyer when they're like "take the plea agreement."
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« Reply #1405 on: May 14, 2012, 09:21:40 pm »

Even so, this is a particularly egregious case of not listening to one's lawyer.
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« Reply #1406 on: May 14, 2012, 09:22:36 pm »

Pfft. What do you need those for? :) Law follows common sense!
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« Reply #1407 on: May 14, 2012, 09:24:06 pm »

Pfft. What do you need those for? :) Law follows common sense!

You have no idea how hard I laughed at that.... I couldn't breathe! The cat was startled.... Thank you! :P
(Not laughing at you, honestly. I'm just so glad somebody gets it. Too many say this straight).
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1408 on: May 14, 2012, 09:36:44 pm »

See, he thought he could lose and get no jail time, or win and get no jail time. Seems like a pretty easy choice to me. Everyone likes winning.
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« Reply #1409 on: May 14, 2012, 09:39:52 pm »

Except he had no reason to think that he'd win. They practically told him beforehand that he was going to lose.
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