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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1425 on: May 16, 2012, 12:17:33 am »

The article says this is not being shown in Western News.

That's pretty fucking scary.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1426 on: May 16, 2012, 12:19:04 am »

I haven't read anything about the bankers being thrown out: can we get a link on that?

And I'd say that the Washington Post and the Guardian are fairly western news sources, at least for the new government part.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1427 on: May 16, 2012, 12:31:06 am »

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Republican Delegate Robert Marshall (who is running for U.S. Senate) also accused him of pushing an "aggressive activist homosexual agenda." According to The Washington Post's Laura Vozzella, Marshall claims that Thorne-Begland "holds himself out as being married,” which makes his “life a contradiction to the requirement of submission to the constitution.”
The fuck is wrong with these people.

Lovely to know you can "work hard and get ahead...." And I mean they're pretty straightforwardly telling him it's cause he's gay that he can't do the job....

It's all just more distraction to keep your focus off the fact that student loans interest rates are going to literally double from 3.4% to 6.8% in 15 days....

Edit: Speaking of things we're distracted from, turns out Iceland overthrew its government, is drafting a new constitution and is trying to throw the bankers that killed the country in jail. The article says this is not being shown in Western News. I'm curious if anyone else has heard of this or if it's just an onion style article?
It's old news, happened a couple of years ago. Where  I live it's increasingly regarded as "what should be done", instead of bending over to the demands of banks and the German goverment
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1428 on: May 16, 2012, 12:36:55 am »

Pd: it's not mainstream news, anymore than the rampant protests are (protests which, funnily enough, do make it to the news abroad). But there's enough anger about the current state of affairs for this stuff to spread. Plus, a journalist did a long report on it a few weeks ago (this particular guy is becoming the bane of bankers, politicians, and bishops)
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1429 on: May 16, 2012, 02:10:57 am »

It's mainstream news over here. But then again, we're both in the North, so I guess it doesn't count as much.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1430 on: May 16, 2012, 10:00:29 am »

I read news articles about it when it happened.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1431 on: May 16, 2012, 10:57:46 am »

I dunno. I don't remember too terribly much about it being in the news: perhaps a blurb here and there. Even so compare:

Greece: I hear about their problems constantly, how they'll default on debts and austerity, etc.

Iceland: I sorta remember a blurb about them but holy crap they overthrew an entire government and don't wanna pay jack on debts....

Difference...?
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1432 on: May 16, 2012, 11:17:34 am »

Greece: Eurozone member, 2010 GDP: $301 billion
Iceland: Not a Eurozone member, 2010 GDP: $12 billion

Rather a large difference, actually.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1433 on: May 16, 2012, 11:26:27 am »

Greece: Eurozone member, 2010 GDP: $301 billion
Iceland: Not a Eurozone member, 2010 GDP: $12 billion

Rather a large difference, actually.

See, that makes some sense. you're looking at a size difference of x.... less than 30.... x27? 28? Whatever. And, a political affiliation. Fine. Legit and I get it.

However, I hear about Zimbabwe's legendary inflation, and every other crazy thing from all these other countries. Heck I know one of the former soviet blocks (I think Kazakhstan) is selling off $500 Million in state assets to pay state debts. A European country overthrows its government and seeks to jail bankers for causing collapse.... Not huge news? Some blurbs and done?

Maybe not cover it as much as Greece, but really, I expected some more. Do we know how the progress of their new constitution is going, even to the extent of whether or not they could/would actually put bankers in jail? I dunno, sounds newsworthy in the here and now moreso than some of the political circus at home.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1434 on: May 16, 2012, 11:32:32 am »

Meh...Iceland is the descendant of a colony of Vikings, the oldest democracy in Europe, and the first to have an openly homosexual (female, no less) head of government. And they gave us Bjork. I think they don't get much coverage because people just assume "They just do things WEIRD in Iceland".  :P
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1435 on: May 16, 2012, 01:07:13 pm »

Greece is newsworthy because it could drag the entire Euro down with it, and because it's so at odds with Germany over repayment and stuff.

Iceland... well, the only interest other countries have in it is whether it's gonna repay all the money its banks lost.  It's not really big news that they'd start attacking the bankers in order to avoid repaying that money.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1436 on: May 16, 2012, 01:08:31 pm »

I do know that my council tax bill is much higher than it should be as my local council held its funds in an Iclandic bank which went belly up, losing them much monies. This happended to many other local councils that did the same thing, and its probably gonna stay that way over Icelands refusal to settle up its debts.

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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1437 on: May 16, 2012, 01:10:11 pm »

It's not as simple as a "refusal to settle it's debts".
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1438 on: May 16, 2012, 01:14:15 pm »

Well, whatever more detailed explanation can be used to explain it, the end result is the same - someone still gets shafted for more money than they should. In this case, me.

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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #1439 on: May 16, 2012, 01:23:16 pm »

Well, whatever more detailed explanation can be used to explain it, the end result is the same - someone still gets shafted for more money than they should. In this case, me.

Yup, globalization sucks. There's no accountability across national boundaries. People thought it was a great idea to move money this way, large sums of it.

Didn't something similar happen with the English getting screwed when some large bank in France collapsed a while ago? Like, maybe it was 6 or 7 years ago perhaps?
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