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[Kogan Loloklam]

Those are cyborgs, not Robots.

Clearly they are Robot sympathizers though, so yes.

[Hanslanda]

Those are cyborgs, not Robots.

Clearly they are Robot sympathizers though, so yes.

Nah, send them to the concentration Happy Fun Time camps.

[Euld]

My brother downloaded a piano app on his iPad.. thing.  Tried to play chopsticks on it.  It can't play chopsticks because the touchscreen can't handle multiple inputs I guess.  I promptly walked over to the family piano and played chopsticks easily on a device invented a couple hundred years ago just to make sure.

So in some ways, we don't entirely live in a science fiction world after all.

[10ebbor10]

My brother downloaded a piano app on his iPad.. thing.  Tried to play chopsticks on it.  It can't play chopsticks because the touchscreen can't handle multiple inputs I guess.  I promptly walked over to the family piano and played chopsticks easily on a device invented a couple hundred years ago just to make sure.

So in some ways, we don't entirely live in a science fiction world after all.

Plenty of science fiction worlds are distopia's. Ours, of course, isn't. Our glorious civilizations stands proud and tall.

_{This message has been delivered to you by The Ministry of Truth. All hail Oceania}

[Guardian G.I.]

Plenty of science fiction worlds are distopia's. Ours, of course, isn't. Our glorious civilizations stands proud and tall.

Almost all current Western science fiction (and generally most of recent books, movies, games set in the future) tend to be dystopian, post-apocalyptic or otherwise show the world of the future as a relatively dark and bleak place.
Science fiction in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s was mostly optimistic: world peace, scientific progress, exploration of space. Now it's all about dark polluted cyberpunk hellholes.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Actually, you're about 10 years off. The straight cyberpunk craze lasted from the mid-70's to the early-00's as a deconstruction of sci-fi. Now we're transitioned towards Post-Cyberpunk, a reconstruction of sci-fi that has far more realistic analysis. Post-Cyberpunk characterizes the problems of the future as existent but mutable (as opposed to cyberpunk's immutable problems) and generally portrays their causes as the result of misguided intentions rather than straight vice.

This is a reflection of how the real world sees things, too. People are way more optimistic now than they were in the past few decades.

[da_nang]

My brother downloaded a piano app on his iPad.. thing.  Tried to play chopsticks on it.  It can't play chopsticks because the touchscreen can't handle multiple inputs I guess.  I promptly walked over to the family piano and played chopsticks easily on a device invented a couple hundred years ago just to make sure.

So in some ways, we don't entirely live in a science fiction world after all.

Plenty of science fiction worlds are distopia's. Ours, of course, isn't. Our glorious civilizations stands proud and tall.

_{This message has been delivered to you by The Ministry of Truth.}

Great, now we've got confirmation. The world is going to be covered in a great, red ash cloud. Why must evil authorities always use moons as headquarters? You shouldn't be even able to access it anymore, you lawbreakers!
On the other hand, Lebensraum. Not that we need it, covered in ash and everything, but we'll keep the southern parts.

Now, if you'll excuse, I need to grab my spear, lick some sap and make preparations for the inevitable invasion. Because you never stopped calling me scum, you self-righteous, barbaric, racist... And other... things. Yes.

[Hanslanda]

Actually, you're about 10 years off. The straight cyberpunk craze lasted from the mid-70's to the early-00's as a deconstruction of sci-fi. Now we're transitioned towards Post-Cyberpunk, a reconstruction of sci-fi that has far more realistic analysis. Post-Cyberpunk characterizes the problems of the future as existent but mutable (as opposed to cyberpunk's immutable problems) and generally portrays their causes as the result of misguided intentions rather than straight vice.

This is a reflection of how the real world sees things, too. People are way more optimistic now than they were in the past few decades.

Yeah. Nowadays we're like, "Shit sucks, but we have better than even odds of making it way way better for our great grandkids."

Back then they were like, "If only- I've just been stabbed. I'm dying. Tell my wife... She's a harridan and I hate her..."

[Guardian G.I.]

MetalSlimeHunt, can you provide examples of any notable Post-Cyberpunk books/films/games?

[Hanslanda]

MetalSlimeHunt, can you provide examples of any notable Post-Cyberpunk books/films/games?

I can. Prometheus.

Magnificient tech and all that jazz, the only problem was

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Peter's wish for immortality. If he hadn't wanted immortality, things may have turned out a lot better for everyone involved. Unless the Engineer just wanted to kill all humans anyway.

[Darvi]

I don't see how that's a problem.

[Hanslanda]

Post-Cyberpunk characterizes the problems of the future as existent but mutable (as opposed to cyberpunk's immutable problems) and generally portrays their causes as the result of misguided intentions rather than straight vice.

 


Still spoilers. Just saying.


Weyland wasn't evil, he did many great things for humanity, he just got the wrong idea eventually, and it cost him his life, and the whole scientific expedition. Is that not fitting the criteria somehow?

[Guardian G.I.]

Still, I wouldn't call the world of Prometheus to be a nice place to live, even with magnificent technology and all that jazz being everywhere.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

MetalSlimeHunt, can you provide examples of any notable Post-Cyberpunk books/films/games?

Ghost In The Shell: Stand Alone Complex was the really big one. It may well have been the alpha example of Post-Cyberpunk for most people.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution is a perfect example of Post-Cyberpunk because of the original Deus Ex, which was late-stage cyberpunk itself. There was some very bleak speck of hope for a utopic society in Deus Ex, but Human Revolution makes it an outright option. Plus in HR you've got characters who are Post-Cyberpunk personified:

Spoiler: Though you probably shouldn't read this if you want to play the game. (click to show/hide)

David Sarif is a megacorp leader who is extremely manipulative and willing to do lots of bad things to get his way, but he's also someone with very strong morals concerning using human augmentation to help humanity as a whole. He takes care of his employees like they're family even if he's simultaneously using them as pawns in his game. He wants to do what he thinks is the the right thing for all the people of the world.....and he'll succeed at any cost.

Adam Jensen is a heavily augmented and stoic man who suffered great emotional and physical trauma in his past, and now acts as the enforcer of the aforementioned Sarif, but maintaining the grip on his humanity is one of his primary traits. He is the opposite of the half-machine psychopath he appears to be, driven by very human reactions to the wrongs he and others have suffered.

Francis Pritchard is Adam's jackass mission control who spends the first half of the game trading verbal abuse with Adam, but when shit really starts to get serious he ends up legitimately concerned for you because, reality check, you don't maintain a stupid office grudge during matters of life and death.

Faridah Malik is Adam's pilot and hinted love interest with a troubled past concerning her sister, who was murdered and had her death covered up by rich and powerful people. Then you go and totally expose the murderer in broad daylight, forcing the police to take action even if they were bribed to do otherwise since people are going to be rioting if they think murders are being ignored. She also doesn't take it well if you kill the murderer since she doesn't see that as being actual justice, just trading a life for a life. (The murder himself also kind of counts, as he killed Malik's sister half-unintentionally while freaking out over finding out she was pregnant, which would not endear him to his rich and powerful family who hated her. Cyberpunk would just be him being a stone-cold killer.)

Get the picture? Post-Cyberpunk can look like Cyberpunk and usually does, but then it pulls the rug out from under you.

[Hanslanda]

Still, I wouldn't call the world of Prometheus to be a nice place to live, even with magnificent technology and all that jazz being everywhere.

I don't know. It doesn't seem any worse than modern day life. Just more fancy toys, like holographic screens, and spaceships, and douchey androids.