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Talvieno

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9795 on: March 29, 2014, 09:07:36 am »

I thought ToadyOne made improvement on dorf logic where they stand for when doing constructs?
Yeah, they no longer wall themselves into places from which they can't get out. Sadly, this brought about the bug I'm complaining about.

It's not really that big, either, just a bit of job cancellation spam. But I hate it all the same.
Deleting said unbuilt wall's task and then re-creating it usually fixes it. Just select, hit x, and then place a new one down.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9796 on: March 29, 2014, 09:15:06 am »

That tends to always happen when you either directly build on a ramp, or build in a spot where there's a downward ramp immediately next to where you're building, and the dorf tries to build the wall from the ramp. For that reason, you should always either remove the ramps before making the wall, or make them all restricted traffic.
I learned this from making a 20 level high tapered and curved wall. Well, it's supposed to be 25, but it's not finished.
Also, once a dwarf tries to make the wall from the wrong spot, it will never try to make it from anywhere else, so once they get stuck, you have to re-designate.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9797 on: March 29, 2014, 09:23:33 am »

Japa explained it better - just redesignate. It can also happen from just building a straight wall, though. I've had it happen on rare occasions.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9798 on: March 29, 2014, 10:18:06 am »

Especially if there are lots of dwarves building the wall at once.

I thought ToadyOne made improvement on dorf logic where they stand for when doing constructs?
Yeah, they no longer wall themselves into places from which they can't get out. Sadly, this brought about the bug I'm complaining about.

It's not really that big, either, just a bit of job cancellation spam. But I hate it all the same.

I've had dwarves wall themselves in a few times, usually happens by accident when there are lots of dwarves building since they still think it's ok to build on the inside portion and not realize that it's about to get closed off completely.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9799 on: March 29, 2014, 04:16:26 pm »

Seems to me that it happens when they drop the material on that spot and go somewhere. Afterwards they cannot resume to build cos' when they pick designated material they stand on the place to build it and block it with themselves.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9800 on: March 30, 2014, 08:12:19 am »

Wait a second... so now a dwarf can't wall himself at all?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9801 on: March 30, 2014, 08:15:40 am »

Wait a second... so now a dwarf can't wall himself at all?

I'm sure they'll find a way, somehow
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9802 on: March 30, 2014, 08:16:54 am »

Wait a second... so now a dwarf can't wall himself at all?

I'm sure they'll find a way, somehow

Can I sig this? (This thread, and indeed the whole forum, is getting far too sig-worthy...)

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9803 on: March 30, 2014, 09:01:44 am »

Wait a second... so now a dwarf can't wall himself at all?

I'm sure they'll find a way, somehow

Can I sig this? (This thread, and indeed the whole forum, is getting far too sig-worthy...)

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9804 on: March 30, 2014, 05:21:43 pm »

Lets say we make Necromancer Adventurer, claim site for ourselves and then retire him there. Will there be necromancer sieges in fortress mode if we embark too close to that site?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9805 on: March 30, 2014, 07:52:10 pm »

That new plant list is amazing! I really love how international it is. The world is going to feel so much bigger if some villages grow tomatillos and some have chicory instead of the same prickle berries and strawberries everywhere.

Are there going to be new underground plants or mushrooms?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9806 on: March 30, 2014, 08:36:26 pm »

I was going to ask if we lost the fantasy plants, then I realized that it said "list of new plants" instead of "new list of plants".  Hello there significant word order.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9807 on: March 30, 2014, 09:37:46 pm »

Great list. Shame there's no agave, but I'm sure the modders will deal with that. And on a related and dwarfy note:

How many of the new plants will dwarves be able to brew?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9808 on: March 30, 2014, 10:19:40 pm »

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Will our dwarves ever get to blaze it all day erryday?

Less flippantly, now that there will be more millable grains available, will we be able to do more things with flours, like making real bread?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #9809 on: March 30, 2014, 10:35:09 pm »

No, those are elves.
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