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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4350 on: November 15, 2012, 03:35:40 am »

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions Toady.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4351 on: November 15, 2012, 04:29:22 am »

Yes, Thank you Toady  :-[
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« Reply #4352 on: November 15, 2012, 05:01:56 am »

I'm thanful too and I DID giggle...
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4353 on: November 15, 2012, 05:29:23 am »

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Will Dwarf Fortress try to deliberately make navigable climbing paths up trees and through the tree-tops outside of forest retreats?
I don't understand this one -- you mean to make the elf sites accessible by climbing without blocking things off?  The elves exercise quite a bit of power over the shapes of their trees.

I think what he meant was whether it will be generally possible to move from treetop to treetop in any random forest or whether the trees will be too far apart to actually do that except in elf retreats.
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« Reply #4354 on: November 15, 2012, 06:50:51 am »

It seems sensible that goblins who have been very active snatchers/slave breeders who have large non-goblin populations do develop rather sizable slave farms to feed their masses.

Yeah, that was my thought on the matter, as well. It's not like the goblins have to start plowing the mud themselves. Slaves and all.

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Can you say a bit more about what sort of flavour each of the races will have? E.g. humans being similar to ancient Greece or Rome or to medieval times or the Renaissance or whatever; I hope you know what I mean

I'm trying not to do it like that -- ideally humans will end up with enough parameters to end up like various different civilizations, and the other civilizations will probably become more alien to humans as humans take up more of the slack.

Since having farms worked by slaves was a common characteristic of historical human civilizations, I imagine it would still not seem "alien" enough to fit with Toady's ultimate vision for goblins.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4355 on: November 15, 2012, 08:45:40 am »

I dunno, the fact that goblins apparently like living in tiny cells in combination with the slavery seems pretty alien to me.

Sure, humans and dwarves can be put into tiny rooms as well, but it's not something they choose to do naturally. (Usually it's compensated by other things like 'safety', 'cheapness' or 'a really damn comfortable bed', or simply 'it beats sleeping in the rain')
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4356 on: November 15, 2012, 09:45:58 am »

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In the first map in the upper 1/3rd of the right side there is a darkgrey "Block". What does it mean?

I guess people who are curious will have to go on a little journey, he he he.  It'll be there waiting.

Oh Toady, you tease :P  That pretty much seals the fate of my first adventurer.

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« Reply #4357 on: November 15, 2012, 10:10:19 am »

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In the first map in the upper 1/3rd of the right side there is a darkgrey "Block". What does it mean?

I guess people who are curious will have to go on a little journey, he he he.  It'll be there waiting.

Oh Toady, you tease :P  That pretty much seals the fate of my first adventurer.

I tried to find that block but struggled. Could anyone mark it on a map for future reference?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4358 on: November 15, 2012, 10:31:08 am »

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In the first map in the upper 1/3rd of the right side there is a darkgrey "Block". What does it mean?

I guess people who are curious will have to go on a little journey, he he he.  It'll be there waiting.

Oh Toady, you tease :P  That pretty much seals the fate of my first adventurer.

I tried to find that block but struggled. Could anyone mark it on a map for future reference?

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4359 on: November 15, 2012, 11:57:15 am »

I wonder if this is the version where we get worldgen options to change the temperature gradients. I've always wanted to be able to have uniformly-freezing glacier worlds or pseudo-whole-globe-maps with both tropics and poles.

Or even strange worlds with freezing centers and hot edges. Not that I'm passive-agressively migrating suggestions into FotF or anything.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4360 on: November 15, 2012, 12:52:27 pm »

Toady said sites will probably not have that much interaction but there might be something like a permanent market fair thing. It would be nice to have hill dwarves bring stuff to you to trade every month or so depending on the number of zombie kittens in the forest. For deep sites to interact with a fortress, they'd have to send stuff through a tunnel to you, and as Toady said deep caravans will probably not go in.

Will deep sites be built anywhere or just in mountains?

If deep sites can be connected to a fort by a tunnel, that's a permanent trading presence even under siege and ambush with multiple forgotten beasts roaming all the caverns and the circus spilling out uncontrolled into the bottom cavern layer.

Will forgotten beasts invade us through tunnels either in the next release or afterwards? The idea is that if we embark on top of a tunnel, forgotten beasts can arrive through the ends, and if a tunnel is dug to our fortress, we may get forgotten beasts arriving through them.

If a site connected to other settlements by a tunnel falls to siege of the HFS, will the other sites deliberately collapse the tunnel or block it off?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4361 on: November 15, 2012, 12:59:55 pm »

I wonder if this is the version where we get worldgen options to change the temperature gradients. I've always wanted to be able to have uniformly-freezing glacier worlds or pseudo-whole-globe-maps with both tropics and poles.

Or even strange worlds with freezing centers and hot edges. Not that I'm passive-agressively migrating suggestions into FotF or anything.

Its actualy in. You go to advanced worlgen. the you hit "e" to customize and then you hit "p". In that window you can paint your map.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4362 on: November 15, 2012, 01:00:47 pm »

I wonder if this is the version where we get worldgen options to change the temperature gradients. I've always wanted to be able to have uniformly-freezing glacier worlds or pseudo-whole-globe-maps with both tropics and poles.

Or even strange worlds with freezing centers and hot edges. Not that I'm passive-agressively migrating suggestions into FotF or anything.

Its actualy in. You go to advanced worlgen. the you hit "e" to customize and then you hit "p". In that window you can paint your map.
You still have a mandatory temperature gradient from north to south.
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« Reply #4363 on: November 15, 2012, 01:10:12 pm »

I wonder if this is the version where we get worldgen options to change the temperature gradients. I've always wanted to be able to have uniformly-freezing glacier worlds or pseudo-whole-globe-maps with both tropics and poles.

Or even strange worlds with freezing centers and hot edges. Not that I'm passive-agressively migrating suggestions into FotF or anything.

Its actualy in. You go to advanced worlgen. the you hit "e" to customize and then you hit "p". In that window you can paint your map.
You still have a mandatory temperature gradient from north to south.
Or south to north.  It's random which.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4364 on: November 15, 2012, 01:15:44 pm »

I wonder if this is the version where we get worldgen options to change the temperature gradients. I've always wanted to be able to have uniformly-freezing glacier worlds or pseudo-whole-globe-maps with both tropics and poles.

Or even strange worlds with freezing centers and hot edges. Not that I'm passive-agressively migrating suggestions into FotF or anything.

Its actualy in. You go to advanced worlgen. the you hit "e" to customize and then you hit "p". In that window you can paint your map.
You still have a mandatory temperature gradient from north to south.
Or south to north.  It's random which.
That makes me think of DF world as tidally locked to it's sun at a pole with orbital heliostat to light up the side away from it without warming it much and a very eccentic orbit to give seasonal gradients.
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