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[Urist_McArathos]

...wait a second.

Toaster, why the fuck are YOU still alive?  You were supposed to protect Orangebottle.  You didn't.  Your claimed role means you should have died in his place.  You're not dead.

Explain yousrself, now.

[Urist_McArathos]

So I guess we need explanations from Jack AT and CoF.

EBWODP: What ability did you gain this morning from OB?

[Toaster]

Urist:

I have no idea what happened.  From what I can tell from the PM, the guard was successful, but I have no idea why OB is dead now, unless OB is indeed some sort of adv dopp.  Time to read back and see who wanted to keep him alive.


Jack:  Did anyone not target you that was supposed to do so?  Or the other way?

[Jack A T]

I've got information.  Unfortunately, it's not the kind I wanted.

Someone destroyed my auto ability.  Permanently.  I have no knowledge of who targeted me.

This means we've either got fakeclaiming scum or Webadict is scum.

Toaster: Could you please give some more idea of the flavour for each of your powers?  I find your names, at least, somewhat unfitting for a tiny, rather peaceful separatist party.

ECrownofFire: So, why claim vig?  Also, I'd like names and flavour explanations for your newly claimed powers, please.

[ECrownofFire]

Night ability is Keen Authorial Instinct, it says I have a keen insight into people. Tells me town or anti-town.

1-shot is Open For Review, something about reading them like a book.

[ECrownofFire]

Also, vig has about the same consequences as a role-cop. So I figured it's a safe enough claim to make so that I don't end up N1 killed/blocked.

[Urist_McArathos]

Unvote for now.  We have a pretty messy situation, it seems.

Looks like Leafsnail was wrong about having the scum kill locked down; I knew it wouldn't be THAT easy.

[webadict]

ECrown: Are you able to tell us Darvi's full role? It should have 3 actions.

Jack: Did you action last Night?

[ECrownofFire]

ECrown: Are you able to tell us Darvi's full role? It should have 3 actions.

That is his full role. It's an Auto ability. All it says is that when he dies, he revives as the WoF. Beyond that, nothing else.

[webadict]

ECrown: Are you able to tell us Darvi's full role? It should have 3 actions.

That is his full role. It's an Auto ability. All it says is that when he dies, he revives as the WoF. Beyond that, nothing else.

Here's a really good question, Crown:

Also, vig has about the same consequences as a role-cop. So I figured it's a safe enough claim to make so that I don't end up N1 killed/blocked.

How would claiming Vigilante stop you from being killed and blocked?

[ECrownofFire]

Because a cop is somebody the scum want to get rid of immediately.

And I claimed 1-shot vig, not a full vig.

[webadict]

Because a cop is somebody the scum want to get rid of immediately.

And I claimed 1-shot vig, not a full vig.

Right. So, instead of killing Darvi, like you were supposed to, you DIDN'T kill Darvi. And told us that we have to kill him. Possibly twice. And instead of telling us you could inspect, which would have been more useful, you fakeclaim and waste your one-shot on a dead man.

Wow. That has got to be the WORST plan I have ever heard of. Am I actually awake?

[Dariush]

Actually, I believe ECF. If he was scum, claiming about the fakeclaiming would be stupid. Besides, this way the scum team would be throwing his life in exchange for a possible Darvi lynch. Nah, Darvi it is.

Also my head hurts right now and I had a busy as fuck week. I'll reread later, but for now let's see what Darvi has to say.

[ECrownofFire]

Because a cop is somebody the scum want to get rid of immediately.

And I claimed 1-shot vig, not a full vig.

Right. So, instead of killing Darvi, like you were supposed to, you DIDN'T kill Darvi. And told us that we have to kill him. Possibly twice. And instead of telling us you could inspect, which would have been more useful, you fakeclaim and waste your one-shot on a dead man.

Wow. That has got to be the WORST plan I have ever heard of. Am I actually awake?

Admittedly, having to kill Darvi twice does fuck things up a bit.

[Leafsnail]

I targeted Jack AT with a random dead player's night action (obviously it was Powder Miner's).  It said I successfully delayed him.

Ok, theories, not necessarily mutually exclusive:
1. Orangebottle is an advanced dopp.  As such Toaster's protection against him was useless since noone attacked him.  That's why Orangebottle was so desparate to survive to N1.

2. ECrown was planning to pass off his mafiakill as a one-shot, but unfortunately for him we demanded he use it in the same night that Orangebottle had to use his advanced doppelganger or die.  Possibly the scum decided that Orangebottle's doppelsnatching was more valuable than ECrown, so they decided to just give him a horrible claim and throw him under the bus.  ECrown could also be responsible for destroying Jack AT's auto ability.

3. Toaster is scum, and someone on the scum team has the ability to hide bodies.  While someone else on the scumteam has the ability to destroy auto abilities, and they hit Jack AT.  I'm not sure if I like this theory since it'd involve the scum taking quite a big risk to kill a horrible player whose one-shot could be waited out in the night anyway.

4. Jack AT is scum and lied about his ability, not expecting people to test it, or maybe planning to say that someone permanently destroyed his auto as soon as it happened.

5. All of you guys are in a big chat together and this game was designed specifically to troll me.  Seriously, I can think of no other reason why Dariush would believe ECrown's roleclaim.  Other than absolute, catastrophic stupidity.

Guys, we are lynching ECrown today.  There is literally no way he is telling the truth.

...wait a second.

Toaster, why the fuck are YOU still alive?  You were supposed to protect Orangebottle.  You didn't.  Your claimed role means you should have died in his place.  You're not dead.

Explain yousrself, now.

This seems reallllyyyy scummy.  Like you were planning to blame Toaster for Orangebottle's "death" when he used his dopplesnatch.  There's no way you'd attack Toaster before ECrown after recent events.

Actually, I believe ECF. If he was scum, claiming about the fakeclaiming would be stupid. Besides, this way the scum team would be throwing his life in exchange for a possible Darvi lynch. Nah, Darvi it is.

You're allowing RiA to pass?  And the scum could easily have a rolecop, they might genuinely know that Darvi is an SK.  But you know what?  ECrown is still scum, even if he's now telling the truth about his role.  Again, there was no reason at all for him to lie about his role and his talk of a gambit makes no sense.