"Because I said so" is a terrible reason. So is,"It's better than any question I've seen so far".
Finally, it doesn't prevent fakeclaims now. Fakeclaiming now actually makes it easier for one to continue fakeclaiming as the game progresses.
That's not true at all. Anyone that claims right away is obviously not lying, as they are claiming as soon as possible. It's the ones that fight and fight about it that are attempting to delay the inevitable, especially idiots like you that have no better reason to NOT claim than "I don't want to." I'd count your other reasons, except that they're blatantly false.
A massclaim at this point will cause one of three things to happen:
A)It will expose all of our roles, and we'll get to watch as the more powerful ones get picked off by scum.
B)It'll cause everybody to scramble for safe fakeclaims, causing a bunch of mislynches when these fakeclaims are found out.
C)There's a small chance of a scum slipping up on their fakeclaim and getting lynched.
The risks of an early massclaim far outweigh the benefits.
A) That's incredibly stupid and false on premise. There are undoubtably doctors and watchers and other roles. Not only that, but you're assuming that some roles are BETTER than other roles, which just isn't true.
B) That doesn't make any sense. How do you mislynch on finding out a fakeclaim? So, somebody is fakeclaiming, you find out, and you mislynch them?
C) This isn't even really a possibility. It would take a majorly bad fakeclaim to get lynched. You're missing the whole POINT of the massclaim, and that's to keep people from changing it later, to provoke discussion, and to come up with a plan, while we simultaneously use actual day skill to play.
Nice job, implying that scum are the only people who want to hide their roles on day one. I'm only buying time for everybody by opposing the massclaim. Cops, trackers, watchers, etc. need time to do their thing. If I wanted to fakeclaim, I would've done it already. I'd need even less time on day one, because I wouldn't need to claim actions and make sure everything fits.
New flash: you're not any more important just because you're a(n) [insert role], and wanting to hide your role is more scummy than not wanting to. Feel free to play the Night game, while I instead force the Day game to be more important. Your argument is faulty on so many levels, it's not even funny. Seeing as how EVERYBODY has a role, then all roles are important.
I have never seen you say that before. Ever.
Which part? That RVS is utter garbage, or that MCing gives everyone information? Because I have said these before many times. Both.
Passive attacks? I don't see any.
How incredibly fakeconvenient.
Learn to read.
As I said, it was mostly a gut feeling. One that's definitely changed over the course of this post. Not lynching a jester means you have a vote you can use to potentially lynch scum. And yes, I'm worried about third party roles, for very good reasons. DEFCON is not a fun way to end a game at all.
But, if you're afraid of third party roles, it STILL doesn't make sense. If I'm dead, then I'm CLEARLY going to doomspeaker you. Not only that, but you should be a little more worried about finding all scum, instead of asking every single player whether they're third party. Instead, you're looking for third parties; NOT mafia. So, I'm assuming that you have no intention of doing so.
Webadict. Trying to force through a massclaim for absolutely awful reasons is not a townie action. If you happen to actually be a jester, congratulations! You've earned my vote for the rest of your short life.
It's not awful reasons. It's better than RVS. It forces fakeclaims out now to find. It focuses the game to a Day game.
Though, I do enjoy the OMGUS, your insistence on finding third parties is staggering, as well as your not want of claiming, fake or otherwise, and shows that you are searching for reasons to vote anyone, no matter how poorly constructed the argument you need to fabricate is.
Webadict: I can see what you're going after, but you'll pardon me if I'm a little skeptical. You didn't see it worth asking the opinions of others of a massclaim?
Nope. I didn't. Why would I? I'm proving that D1 Massclaims are superior to RVS, especially after looking at every question that had been posted. Every single one was pointless, so I figured I'd try out MCing. It'll force fakeclaims out right now, give all others as much information before they die, and it'll promote discussion.
Your response to Webadict reeks of OMGUS.
And? When two people suspect eachother, OMGUS tends to happen. It's not even the worst type of OMGUS, which is reasonless.
Since Web's reasons for trying to "force through a massclaim" are "awful", what would be a good reason for a D1 massclaim?
Maybe somebody getting daykilled, and definitely a lot of people getting daykilled all at once.
To suspect someone, it implies that one person actually finds another person suspicious. You don't actually suspect me because you're scum, especially given your reasons which are "I don't want to claim." However, I'm glad you believe I'm town.
Also, your reason is contrary to your other reason, as this would give MORE power to Night roles, and then the daykills, which are LESS likely to be protected, would have better targets (in your words) to daykill repeatedly. Your logic is incredibly faulty, as this is exactly the same situation you're trying to avoid.
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