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[Doomshifter]

Pedophiles are often gay.
Therefore, gay people are often pedophiles.


LOGIC DOESN'T WORK LIKE THIS ! ! !

[justinlee999]

I never said it would happen. I'm just saying that they can immagine. Also, most pedophiles are gay- STATISTICALLY! I would not want my child to grow up in a society like that.

Hahahahahha

Also look at how many people posted at this topic, so Fun.

But even if that is true, Doomshifter's logic still applies.

[antymattar]

Pedophiles are often gay.
Therefore, gay people are often pedophiles.


LOGIC DOESN'T WORK LIKE THIS ! ! !

No. a=b therefor b=a is only mathematical but that isnt the point.

[IronyOwl]

For starters, this could probably have gone in the sad or rage threads. Not that this is the biggest issue here by far, just saying.

More importantly, while there's some room to argue that any kind of intolerance counts as bigotry, I still find your paranoid homophobia hilarious.

Ninja'd by more hilarity. Ohhhh boy.

I never said it would happen. I'm just saying that they can immagine.

Okay. Please explain why gay neighbors are different than any neighbors at all in this respect. As far as I'm aware any human and possibly many animal neighbors can imagine raping you.

Also explain why someone imagining raping you has any relevance to anything.

Also, most pedophiles are gay- STATISTICALLY! I would not want my child to grow up in a society like that.

Okay. Explain why this is statistically relevant enough to matter. Most pedophiles (and rapists) are men, as far as I'm aware, but you haven't said anything about wanting to not have to live near any.


Also, I'm not sure what you're suggesting. Are you saying that because most pedophiles are homosexual, we should outlaw homosexual acts because that will reduce the rates of pedophilia? Or what?

[Capntastic]

See this is what I just dont understand. How can you say that my perspective is incorect while yours(maybe not yours. Sorry. Im just replying) is correct? The different perspective argument is a paradox because if YOU(or who ever) can think and do what you want, then I can think and do what I want. That cant be right.

No, it's not a paradox.  It's possible for one person to be right and another person to be wrong.  If you're disputing that, and using that as your stance, then even you can't say homosexuals are bad, because in your stance, you can't judge anyone for anything.  Your argument is self defeating.  This is beside the point that your stance is ignorant and wrong.

And saying that your reason for hating gay people is because they might rape you and then changing your stance to 'well, pedophiles have a tendency to be homosexual.' is moving goalposts, etc. 


Just admit that you're the bigot, and not worth bothering reasoning with.

[micelus]

...Do you actually know a homosexual? Not different at all from anyone...Well besides the attraction to their own sex and all.

[antymattar]

Ok, so far I have called none of you names. And you keep kalling me a bigot.

No, it's not a paradox.  It's possible for one person to be right and another person to be wrong.  If you're disputing that, and using that as your stance, then even you can't say homosexuals are bad, because in your stance, you can't judge anyone for anything.  Your argument is self defeating.  This is beside the point that your stance is ignorant and wrong.

If I cant judge anyone, then what does that say about people in general. If nobody can be judged, then judging cant be judged. WHY THE HECK ARE YOU JUDGING ME!?

[Realmfighter]

If I cant judge anyone, then what does that say about people in general. If nobody can be judged, then judging cant be judged. WHY THE HECK ARE YOU JUDGING ME!?

The insanity here is glorious.

[Doomshifter]

As IronyOwl said, like a much better version of what I said, pedophiles are often men, therefore men are often pedophiles!

Pedophiles are often human, therefore humans are often pedophiles!
Down with humanity! Etc.

I hope you see how this does not translate mathematically. How one group is significantly larger than the other, therefore rendering any direct translation impossible. If you cannot see why this is a stupid argument, then I have lost all hope for you.

If you don't like gay people, that's your choice. If you're going to blame gay people for such heinous acts as rape and pedophilia sheerly because you disapprove of their choice to be gay, then you are being a bigot.

[IronyOwl]

Ok, so far I have called none of you names. And you keep kalling me a bigot.

True, but you've called other people bigots, so evidently it's a valid charge.

Also, you should really not be afraid to admit that you're wrong, either in general or on any specific point. Just throwing that out there while waiting for you to respond to my admittedly deep questions.

[antymattar]

Ok. Let me put it this way. You say I'm a bigot right?

Well lets look at the definition of a bigot.

A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs.

I asked you what I should say to a mod who banned me because I said that I think homosexuality isnt healthy.

You replied in calling me a bigot, a troll etc. Asking me to prove something etc. How does any of this make sense?

[Capntastic]

I don't even know what the point Antymattar is trying to get to here; is he trying to rally support against homosexuals?  Against Tigsource?

Anty, my pal, we've had a rough time in the past but you need to realize that sometimes when people react to you in an overwhelmingly negative way, you should take a moment to look inward and try to figure out why that might be.  Yes, we understand that English isn't your native language and many people have been willing to look past that, but underneath that all you've given us here is "I hate gay people, they are icky and disgusting."  Do you realize that there are more than a few Bay12ers who happen to be homosexual, or even transgendered?  And that not many people here actually have a problem that?  And that those that do know that it's not their place to say anything? 

So, when you come in here, blustering about how you got banned from a different indie game forum for being anti-homosexual enough to post threads about it, what did you really expect to happen?  I don't think you were looking for a rational debate, given you've sidestepped any effort to prove your positions regarding gays being gross, unclean rapists and pedophiles.  So, people have tried to persuade you to think for a moment and see your own failings to come to the conclusion that homosexuals are just people.

You've closed off your mind, and are calling us bigots.

Edit:  Without any facts, you hold obstinately to your beliefs- your opinion-  that homosexuals are bad, while others understand the truth that they are not.  You wouldn't call someone a bigot for asserting that gravity is real.

[Urist Mcinternetuser]

Maybe you are confusing gay people with pedophiles. Yes there are weird people who molest children, I think that is unbelievably horrifying and I think that they should be put down like the evil scum that they are. Gay people on the other hand are just like heterosexual people except in one big way, they are attracted to people of the same gender. I don't know why you dislike them so much. What I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't hate gays because there are some (very, very few) who molest children, just like how I don't hate my fellow heteros because of the bigots who are straight.

Also I'd like to point out that many (most?) child molesters were molested themselves, while I feel bad for them for being molested, I lose all pity if they decide to go ahead and take out their pain by molesting other children. I also think paroling child molesters is bullshit, especially when they repeat the crime over and over.

[justinlee999]

Ok. Let me put it this way. You say I'm a bigot right?

Well lets look at the definition of a bigot.

A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs.

I asked you what I should say to a mod who banned me because I said that I think homosexuality isnt healthy.

You replied in calling me a bigot, a troll etc. Asking me to prove something etc. How does any of this make sense?

Calling something "unhealthy" without any evidence to back it up is intolerance, no?

[Enzo]

Loving this topic.