Tough luck. Piggy bank is going bust. Liberalism is dying out, but it's going out on a binge like there's no tomorrow. Next up, the Fiscal Cliff. You've got nothing to celebrate today. The fact is, all your goodies are about to end. Forget the government helping you with student loans. $16 trillion debt.
Take what money you probably make each year. Now you're making that much money each second of your life. Now live until age 70. That's what $16 trillion looks like, and it's going to increase dramatically in four years. America has succumbed to the parasites that only wanted goodies and hated productive people.
Buuut I want more free health care/education, and I have not finished hating productive people yet!
But seriously, meaningless
straw man is meaningless.
Also you state "and it's going to increase dramatically in four years" as if its a fact, rather than speculation (unless you can predict the futute/have a time machine, which you can't do/don't have, right?).
You disagree that the debt is $16 trillion and there's a breaking point somewhere when the interest keeps mounting? That's insightful. Do continue.
Let me clue you right now, the end of the war in Iraq did nothing to help the deficit and the end of the war in Afghanistan won't, either. It's not the DoD growing larger, which is just 19% of the budget. It's the entitlements and goodies that are about 60% of the budget and growing.
And why do I have to personally account for myself when there are facts, not a personal issue, to be discussed? I live in China. I use Chinese services. How could I get anything from the American government here? I mean, theoretically, I could collect Social Security, if you really believe that it will exist in 40 years. Hahah!
The goodies are going bye bye. Have one last round on the house.
Meaningless
straw man is meaningless.
The only definite "facts" you have presented has been stating the deficit, and that you live in china.
$16 trillion. That's your bubble. And it will burst.
Take note, everyone. He made appeals to emotion, and I just kept asking him to confront a single number. He couldn't do it.
You continue to state the deficit without explaining how "liberalism" is causing it. Just that it "is" $16 Trillion. Also, given your constant use of straw men, accusing someone of using an emotional fallacy is ironic.
I live in Australia. We have a significantly larger public health system, interest free student loans, and numerous things that would be considered "liberal" in America. Our debt is considerably smaller than America's (And is apparently expected to disappear in a year or 2 (how successful that will be is another question)). I have never quite understood why some people view things like Universal health care as the end of the economy.
The advantage of having Obama re-elected is the reduced chance of America going to war with another random middle-east country, dragging Australia along with them (both our major parties always seem to fall head-over-heals to follow, unfortunetely).
I'm not a democrat. I'm an anarchist (social libertarian). I think all this crap about the deficit is a meaningless abstract number game that represents practically nothing in reality. I think our entire economic system needs to be fundamentally redesigned, including the ways in which we measure value and ownership. Your arguments only describe to me how broken capitalism is.
I agree that Capitalism, at least pure Capitalism is pretty broken. Bor for the deficit... you could simply pretent it does not exist, and that would eliminate the deficit.
China might be pretty pissed though. That tends to be the meaning behind the number.