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[roflgar]

The US has no official language. Romney didn't know that before Puerto Rico, apparently.

Don't worry, I'm sure he'll be sure to speak out against discriminating against Spanish speaking people, then leap to defend the american way (of only speaking EnglishAmerican)

[Mr. Palau]

The US has no official language. Romney didn't know that before Puerto Rico, apparently.

Don't worry, I'm sure he'll be sure to speak out against discriminating against Spanish speaking people, then leap to defend the american way (of only speaking EnglishAmerican)

yeah calling it english would make Mitt seem too foriegn  .

[Reelya]

I knew that Santorum gaffed on the Puerto Rico language thing, but Romney too?? Link?

I think I'd rather have a prick who isn't racing to disassemble our civil rights, than a suave democratic president who is more than willing to shred our protections for the sake of industry.

Lol, perhaps you're not cynical enough either

Republicans are just as much anti-rights as anyone. Remember that a Republican controlled congress and senate passed the NDAA, but they only mention Obama's name in the news. I wonder why? I can't see any Republican president repealing this sort of thing.

More % of Republicans voted for NDAA than Democrats, but I see lots of stories claiming the Republicans are against it. Total red-herring right there. Obama did add a signing statement pledging not to use the anti-US citizen provisions of the bill. But really, he had little choice but to sign, because it's tied to the operations budget for ongoing military actions like Afghanistan. That's reality vs wishful sentiments. The idea that Obama can pull troops out of places all over the globe anytime he feels like it is nonsense. It's not just US troops, USA has friends and allies fighting around the place. They're not going to like you much if you abandon them.

[Zangi]

Politics, all about shafting others by adding unrelated shit to important shit.

[ECrownofFire]

"Significant Evidence of Algorithmic Vote Flipping in the 2012 GOP Primary"

It's a VERY long PDF (200 pages), this is a summary.

It's... interesting, to say the least.

[RedKing]

Yeah....not sure what to make of that. It certainly would be easier to hide this kind of trend with a candidate like Romney because urban areas are often the last to report in, so everyone expects a bump for Romney late.

EDIT: My biggest reservation re: this honestly is that it seems to have been a product of the Ron Paul crowd, and frankly there's never been a conspiracy story they didn't like. There's also a distinct lack of sourcing on data. How were they able to get the precinct-level data *in the order it was tabulated*? Where's the link to that data so someone can independently construct their own analysis?

[Zangi]

"Significant Evidence of Algorithmic Vote Flipping in the 2012 GOP Primary"

It's a VERY long PDF (200 pages), this is a summary.

It's... interesting, to say the least.

With this in hand, I want to see voter fraud.  That would just top the whole Republican train wreck quite nicely.

[nenjin]

Someone should tell the Republicans that they should save their vote rigging Ace-In-The-Hole for the general elections.

[Nadaka]

Each party has the right to pick its candidate as it sees fit. Either by appointment, vote or some other method. As skeezy and dishonest that manipulation of primary voting appears to be, as far as I know it isn't explicitly illegal. Doing the same thing in an actual election however, would be another matter.

[RedKing]

Each party has the right to pick its candidate as it sees fit. Either by appointment, vote or some other method. As skeezy and dishonest that manipulation of primary voting appears to be, as far as I know it isn't explicitly illegal. Doing the same thing in an actual election however, would be another matter.

I'm pretty sure electoral fraud is illegal in primaries as well.

[Zangi]

Each party has the right to pick its candidate as it sees fit. Either by appointment, vote or some other method. As skeezy and dishonest that manipulation of primary voting appears to be, as far as I know it isn't explicitly illegal. Doing the same thing in an actual election however, would be another matter.

I'm pretty sure electoral fraud is illegal in primaries as well.

Going forward, even if it isn't illegal, they've basically shot themselves in the foot their own leg off anyways...

[FearfulJesuit]

We can hope so, at least.

I wonder what 2016 will hold. I hope the Republicans nominate Huntsman. I like Huntsman. His tax stance is not exactly to be praised, but you can't have everything, and he's certainly sane.

[GlyphGryph]

I will continue to give my vote to anyone who opposes the war on some drugs, as long as they are at least moderately sane.

My vote will likely remain buried, untouched, in the back yard.

[RedKing]

Yeah, 2016 might be wild. I can't seriously see the Democrats lining up behind Biden as the heir-apparent, assuming Obama wins this fall. Might be another scenario like 2008 where there's no incumbent or Vice President running and it's a real free-for-all.

I still have hopes that Brian Schweitzer (Dem. Governor of Montana) make take a shot at the WH. Eh is a cool guy who uses a branding iron to veto shit and doesn't afraid of anything.

[Aqizzar]

Out on the campaign trail, Rick Santorum kinda sorta said he'd rather see Obama reelected than Mitt Romney win.

"You win by giving people a choice," Santorum said during a campaign stop in Texas. "You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who's just going to be a little different than the person in there."

Santorum added: "If they're going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk of what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate for the future."

80% chance he sets the land speed record for backpedaling, 20% chance he doubles down and makes "a vote for Romney might as well be a vote for Obama" his new stump speech.  No doubt he's taking shitloads of heat for it, but the grand irony is that people like George Will and William F. Buckley have been basically saying the same thing since January.

Yeah, 2016 might be wild. I can't seriously see the Democrats lining up behind Biden as the heir-apparent, assuming Obama wins this fall. Might be another scenario like 2008 where there's no incumbent or Vice President running and it's a real free-for-all.

I still have hopes that Brian Schweitzer (Dem. Governor of Montana) make take a shot at the WH. Eh is a cool guy who uses a branding iron to veto shit and doesn't afraid of anything.

Speaking hypothetically of an Obama reelection, I can't even see Biden running in 2016.  He'll only be a year or two older than John McCain was when he ran in 2008, but that would still make him the oldest man ever to run for President.  I do kinda expect Hilary Clinton to run, and while I also expect her to lose the nomination again, I can't imagine to whom.  How many Democrats are there with the national recognition and wherewithal to run after two terms of a Democrat President?  Brian Schweitzer's not impossible, but he sounds more like "also-ran to VP" material; Jennifer Granholm maybe; Bill Richardson will probably run again; I've heard mention of Andrew Cuomo, who's certainly in the realm of possibility, and that's everyone I can think of.  There's a few other governors out there like Bev Perdue who might think they can try, and that's enough for a field, but none I can see as of now winning against what's likely to be a very well bolstered Republican opposition.

Honestly, if Obama does get reelected, he'd have to learn to walk on water like Reagan and FDR if he hopes to see the third time in a century for a successor of the same party after two terms.  A lot of people are wondering why there's all these "reasonable" republicans like Chris Christie sitting out this election, and the easiest guess is because they know 2016 will almost automatically go to the Republican.

_{Yes, that was an FDR joke.  Savor it.}