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[SalmonGod]

There's one facet of a moonbase that intersects with conservative conceptions of America very well: it would give us a frontier again. One school of American history (one that frequently touts American exceptionalism) posits that America was at its best, its most productive and most democratic when it still had a frontier to settle. It meant opportunity available to the poor back East. Rather than forming a permanent underclass in the big Eastern cities, millions of them packed up and headed west to make homesteads on all that open land. That notion of being able to strike out on your own and carve out your own little patch from the wilderness by hard work and your wits is part and parcel of "the American Dream". Of course, it really hasn't worked like that since about the 1940s, if not earlier.

I could see a lot of people voluntarily migrating to the Moon if there were jobs a-plenty and/or the Moon was determined to be rich in valuable minerals. Wouldn't be the first time large population movements have been triggered by a gold rush.

Sorry, moonbases still suck. If we wanted a new frontier, it'd be more lucrative and easier to build colonies on the ocean floor in international water. The landmass in the arctic. The treaties preventing economic activity in Anarctica will end soon. There are also plenty of untouched places in national territory as well, like Siberia and hell, Afghanistan. We could build cities or colonies deep underground for less expense and asspain then a moonbase. All better ideas.

I would much rather we aim our economic ventures at a place that is not supporting life, than damage anymore ecosystems here on earth.

[Aqizzar]

Yeah, we've got a thread for talking about moon bases now.  You can all go over there.

Meanwhile, Florida coming up on Tuesday.  Sadly though, the next candidate debate is not until February 22nd.  Whatever will we do...

[Zrk2]

I just learned that my grandparents are Gingrich people. My mind is full of fuck. I explained to my grandmother about the whole steeping out on his cancer ridden wife and she ignored that but cheered for him hounding Clinton out of office. My mind is full of fuck.

Did I mention my mind is full of fuck?

[nenjin]

It's pretty scary when the base that should care about morality the most seems to care about it the least. I'm pretty sure that's how you elect the anti-christ.

[SalmonGod]

It's pretty scary when the base that should care about morality the most seems to care about it the least. I'm pretty sure that's how you elect the anti-christ.

Unless there's a ton of stuff we don't know about Gingrich, I'd be very disappointed if he were the anti-christ.  Surely hell can produce someone more impressive.

[ECrownofFire]

I think the closest the world could come to the anti-christ is some horrible combination of Hitler, Stalin, and Genghis Khan.

[Nadaka]

I think the closest the world could come to the anti-christ is some horrible combination of Hitler, Stalin, and Genghis Khan.

You are right, Gingrich would have been too obvious.

[Sirus]

I heard that the Anti-Christ is supposed to bring peace to the Middle East, solve our economic problems, and bring about a world government that would treat everyone equally. Therefore, Gingrich cannot be the Anti-Christ

[nenjin]

Somehow that whole world government seems a lot less appealing with things like the ACTA floating around.

[Loud Whispers]

Somehow that whole world government seems a lot less appealing with things like the ACTA floating around.

All it takes is one rich villain to ruin decades of world relations

[Flying Dice]

The Anti-Christ will also destroy all attempts at internet censorship. Hail Satan?

[nenjin]

If I had to pick a patron deity of the Internet, he's the most likely.

[Flying Dice]

Koalemos would also be appropriate, I think.

[SalmonGod]

I would think it either Eris or the Flying Spaghetti Monster... or Cthulhu, I suppose.

[Frumple]

FSM, maybe... I'd think more along the lines of Hermes or something, really. One of the various gods of messengers or knowledge, I guess. Inherent semi-degenerate nature of a lot of the content aside, the sheer marvel of the speed at which information moves in this place is definitely god-tier as far as old myths and such are concerned.

Maybe if Zeus and Hermes had a butt baby or something. It's definitely a Grecian god, as far as major western mythos goes, though. Not many other of the big ones involve sufficient debauchery.

Also derail? Yes, derail. RERAIL!