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[GlyphGryph]

Well I only used like 16, that I know of. There might be some variations that aren't visible taking the extras, though, but all my sprites have been done with a < 16 color pallete.

[Heron TSG]

Did you save it as a png with no compression?

[Furtuka]

Well I only used like 16, that I know of. There might be some variations that aren't visible taking the extras, though, but all my sprites have been done with a < 16 color pallete.

I think it may have been effected by the modifications I made. I'm not good at limiting pallette count ._.,

Probably cause of the spots I added

[GlyphGryph]

Oooh, Freeform, don't pay any attention to Furtuka's. I convert them to the appropriate format and style before adding them to the project - a palette count isn't a bad idea, but don't do it on the sample PNGs people provide!

Speaking of which, Furtuka, you need to do your images as indexed gifs, with hard edges and transparency.

[freeformschooler]

Still, Furtuka's sprites are amazing.

[Furtuka]

Actually the one I posted last page was a modified version of one glyph made. Which admittedly was bsed off of one that I made but was much more simple looking than the more recent versions of it

[USEC_OFFICER]

Hey, does everybody remember how I said that trainers were 16x16 on the overworld map? Well I lied. They're 16x24. The tiles are 16x16. Sorry for any confusion.

Also, the descriptions of Pokemon have a 240 character max. Keep in mind that it's split between two pages of 120 characters each, so even if you have less than 240 characters it might not fit without having a word split between the two pages.

[GlyphGryph]

Something to keep in mind. Another thing to keep in mind is that every pokemon will actually get two descriptions, so descriptions that involve two facts can be split across both versions. So you've technically got 480 characters total, with two 240 character blurbs, each split across two 120 character screens.

[Bluerobin]

Alright. Final changes to the starters' movesets unless people see things glaringly wrong. I realized the unicorn line got vastly more attacks than the other two, so I added more to the Boatblanked and Uncarp lines. Spoilered for BIG.

First up, Boatblanked:

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Boatborn -16-> Boatforged -36-> Boatmurdad (Fire/Ghost)
Tackle 1
Leer 1
Astonish 6
Ember 8
Rage 10
Curse 13
Uproar 16 16
Fire Spin 20 21
Confuse Ray 24 26
Headbutt 28 30
Scary Face 32 35 38
Flamethrower 36 40 43
Shadow Punch 40 45 48
Destiny Bond 44 50 53
Overheat 49 55 58
Doom Desire 55 60 64 16 total
Fire moves are Special, Ghost are Physical. The Fire moves that it learns are typically a bit stronger than the Ghost ones, so I was thinking it could have more attack than special attack to balance that a bit. Overall its stats are slow and defensive, but nothing too low. Something like this:

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Boatborn
HP 44
Attack 50
Defense 63
Special Attack 45
Special Defense 63
Speed 45
Total 310

Boatforged
HP 60
Attack 65
Defense 80
Special Attack 60
Special Defense 80
Speed 60
Total 405

Boatmurdad
HP 90
Attack 85
Defense 105
Special Attack 70
Special Defense 110
Speed 70
Total 530


Next, the Uncarp line.

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Uncarp -16-> Skelfish -36-> Urwhal (Water/Dark)
Scratch 1
Harden 1
Beat Up 6
Water Gun 8
Splash 9
Roar 10
Bone Club 12
Pursuit 15
Bubblebeam 18 19
Bite 21 23
Water Sport 24 27
Body Slam 28 31
Acid Armor 32 35
Dive 36 40 42
Nasty Plot 40 45 47
Crunch 44 50 53
Muddy Water 49 55 59
Horn Drill 54 61 65 18 total (splash included)
I shifted some things around to make Pursuit a bit earlier and added Body Slam, Water Sport and the all important Splash. I removed Moonlight and swapped out Dragon Dance for Nasty Plot which boosts the actually-useful Special Attack. Both Water and Dark moves are Special, but there are some physical moves in there too. Stats will be overall average, something like this:

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Uncarp
HP 46
Attack 57
Defense 50
Special Attack 57
Special Defense 50
Speed 50
Total 310

Skelfish
HP 70
Attack 70
Defense 65
Special Attack 70
Special Defense 65
Speed 65
Total 405

Urwhal
HP 90
Attack 95
Defense 85
Special Attack 95
Special Defense 85
Speed 80
Total 530


Finally, the unicorn line!

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Perlihorn (Normal) -16-> Unicron (Grass/Steel) -36+happiness-> Perlestia (Grass/Psychic)/Lunicron (Steel/Fighting)
Tackle 1
Odor Sleuth 1
Fake Tears 6
Sing 8
Double Kick 10
Sweet Kiss 13
Horn Attack 15
Triple Kick 17 18
Magical Leaf 20 22
Metal Claw 23 26
Metal Sound 26 30
Agility 29 34
Body Slam 32 37
Psybeam 40
Jump Kick 40
Morning Sun 36 42 45
Moonlight 45
Petal Dance 41 47 50
Steel Wing 41 47 50
Solar Beam 46 52 55
Meteor Mash 46 52 55
Swords Dance 50
Tail Glow 50
Horn Drill 54
Calm Mind 57 58
Hone Claws 57 58
Psycho Boost 65
Superpower 65 (21/20/19 total)
Here's where I made most of the changes. I got rid of Absorb and Ingrain but moved Morning Sun and Moonlight earlier (although they're still pretty late). I added in Double and Triple Kick and Body Slam for some more offensive power earlier and Agility because it seemed like a good suggestion. Petal Dance is in there instead of Leaf Blade and Hone Claws instead of Screech (accuracy boost, plus it parallels Calm Mind as a self targeted offensive boost instead of an opponent targeted defense reduction). And I added Horn Drill to Perlihorn as an end move as suggested. I like this move set a lot more than the past ones. Anyway, stats. Grass and Psychic are Special. Fighting, Steel and Normal are Physical. Stats are offensive and fast, something like this:

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Perlihorn
HP 42
Attack 68
Defense 42
Special Attack 55
Special Defense 48
Speed 55
Total 310

Unicron
HP 55
Attack 85
Defense 50
Special Attack 85
Special Defense 60
Speed 70
Total 405

Perlestia
HP 75
Attack 85
Defense 70
Special Attack 125
Special Defense 75
Speed 100
Total 530

Lunicron
HP 75
Attack 125
Defense 75
Special Attack 85
Special Defense 70
Speed 100
Total 530


Pretty much the only move I'm really unsure of is Horn Drill on Urwhal. The more I look at it the less I like it, but it's in an awkward spot. Stat totals and reasonable ranges are based on starters from all of the past generations. They still need abilities and that's the part I like least so if someone else wants to do that, go for it. This (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Abilities#List_of_Abilities) is a good reference, just sort by generation and only go through Gen 3.

Edit: Here's a link to the google docs spreadsheet I'll be using to store mon stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoYubCVYMK_odGtsNV9iMEVndVNCT3hseTM5a2FBQWc
It's open to anyone for viewing, but not editing. This will be a more up-to-date reference (updated real-time) than the wiki until things are stabilized.

[GlyphGryph]

Very nice! I love it.

Also remember that not every move a pokemon learns needs to be awesome or appropriate - part of the strategy is figuring out what moves aren't that great, right?

Also, are you going to do TMs for them as well?

(With the stats and the sprites, that means Boatborn and Boatforged are almost ready to be put into the game! I'll do it tonight, after making their battle sprites, which still needs to be done)

[Bluerobin]

I'll do TMs/HMs and egg moves at some point (if someone else doesn't do them first), but I'd rather work on base move sets for other mons, personally.

Like this one: Slag -> FPSnail (slug/snail based low FPS mons). Truant ability (only goes every other turn). Psychic/Electric (possible Bug instead of Psychic?) with paralyze, Future Sight, speed decreasing mvoes, and possibly Curse.

[GlyphGryph]

Considering the one special condition I want to try to add (if its even possible) is the electric-type "lag storm" (paralyzes all non-electric pokemon) that would fit perfectly. Of course, you probably remembered that.

Even if its not, it fits the lag-based Cat-5 line - apparently our "electric-type" will actually be "lag"-type, heheh.

One thing I always thought pokemon should have done is the whole "accumulating speed points occassionally get you an extra turn" type dealio (in other words, each turn your speed minus your opponents speed is stored and compounded, and if its double the opponents speed its zeroed and you get an extra turn)

Ah well, that's just musings at this point.

[Bluerobin]

Yeah, I'm fiddling with stats for the lag-mons and I just realized how much of a dump stat Speed can be. There's really no penalty for essentially zero speed if your health and defenses are reasonably high. I guess there's a bigger chance you'll be incapacitated via status effect before you get a turn, but eh.

[GlyphGryph]

Speed is good for controllers and sweepers, but its a binary proposition - you're faster or you aren't. If you're faster, any speed beyond the opponents is worthless, but if your slower you might as well have zero speed. It's really not my favorite speed system - but its also not really something we can change, even if we wanted to, which we probably don't.

[monk12]

I was going to suggest Shadow Tag for Boatblanked, but he's already got plenty of "make foe not run away" moves. After poking around, I came up with 2 Ability Trio's- the safe boring one, and the probably-unbalanced-but-entertaining one.

The safe one would be Blaze, Torrent, and Overgrow- they all boost elemental attacks (fire, water, and grass respectively) when the user is <33% health. In fact, these are the abilities of all the starter Pokemon in the main games.

But what fun is that? We could also roll with Boatblanked having Flame Body (30% chance for Pokemon that contact it to get burned), Uncarp with Water Absorb (regains HP when hit by water attacks) and Perlihorn having Natural Cure (cures status ailments whenever it leaves battle)

It would probably make more sense to go the safe route, IMO, but whatever floats your boat.

@GlyphGryph- how many sprites does a given Mon need? And I'll just throw this out there, Static is an Ability that has a 30% chance to paralyze Pokemon making contact

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Yeah, Speed is rather underwhelming on its own. It would have made more sense for it to play a factor in Accuracy and/or Evasion as well, but it doesn't. But it will, once I complete my TIME MACHINE and get hired by Gamefreak!