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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2011, 12:07:29 pm »

I think 'mild dehydration' basically amounts to any dehydration that is curable by the consumption of water alone, if people can decide that their headache or whatever is a 'mild ache or pain' requiring over the counter drugs then i don't see why people shi are thirsty can't decide they are mildly dehydrated enough to require water ...
And personally if i don't drink water frequently i get horrendiously dehydrated, i'm probably diabetic or something.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2011, 12:16:56 pm »

Water does not prevent dehydration. It cures it.
In the US, that statement would make the FDA classify water as a drug, since according to FDA guidelines, only a drug can cure something.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2011, 12:23:42 pm »

I'm pretty sure that drinking sufficient quantities of water regularly prevents dehydration from occurring in the first place. Unless you choose to define dehydration as the process of losing water for some reason in which case only stillsuits can do that.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2011, 12:25:28 pm »

I'm pretty sure that drinking sufficient quantities of water regularly prevents dehydration from occurring in the first place. Unless you choose to define dehydration as the process of losing water for some reason in which case only stillsuits can do that.

As I recall, all humans are constantly undergoing the process of dehydration. Drinking water counters the effects of this. It isn't a matter of "I drank a liter of water so I am not going to be dehydrated for a while", but of "I drank a liter of water so I am much less dehydrated now".
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2011, 12:25:29 pm »

ITT, people act as unwitting corporate shills by jumping on the bandwagon to turn an obscure technical definition they have no real context of into an example of governmental incompetence.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2011, 12:26:18 pm »

Yes, I don't know in the US but I've heard that drinking a lot of water prevent dehydration, as in, make you less prone to dehydration.
If that fact is false, as in drinking any liquid perform just as well, then it should not be on the bottles.
It's worth saying, drinking soda pop is not nearly as effective.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2011, 12:35:05 pm »

Drinking any liquid with a solute in it is a lot less effective at stopping dehydration. The entire idea of dehydration is a hypertonic environment in the body compared to the body's normal functional level of blood concentration.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2011, 12:37:57 pm »

ITT, people act as unwitting corporate shills by jumping on the bandwagon to turn an obscure technical definition they have no real context of into an example of governmental incompetence.
Pretty much.

There are jobs solely devoted to making you think the way they want you to think. Advertising obviously gets products known, but it also attempts to *make* you want it. Plus, obviously, stuff like this. And the people that do it are damn good at it.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2011, 01:06:50 pm »

I'm pretty sure that drinking sufficient quantities of water regularly prevents dehydration from occurring in the first place. Unless you choose to define dehydration as the process of losing water for some reason in which case only stillsuits can do that.

As I recall, all humans are constantly undergoing the process of dehydration. Drinking water counters the effects of this. It isn't a matter of "I drank a liter of water so I am not going to be dehydrated for a while", but of "I drank a liter of water so I am much less dehydrated now".

And if that's the definition you're using this is a reasonable and sensible ruling, it's just that I have seen it used that way only when it was clearly a process in context, and in a technical setting. In common use, it always seems to refer to the state of having uncomfortably little water in the body, not the process of losing that water.

That said it's entirely possible that this difference in usage is entirely cultural, and from the sound of other comments here it probably is. I'd just like to point out that in defending the ruling, you should probably make that clear to the people who think this is ridiculous because they're probably reading it differently.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2011, 01:10:14 pm »

I'm pretty sure that drinking sufficient quantities of water regularly prevents dehydration from occurring in the first place. Unless you choose to define dehydration as the process of losing water for some reason in which case only stillsuits can do that.

As I recall, all humans are constantly undergoing the process of dehydration. Drinking water counters the effects of this. It isn't a matter of "I drank a liter of water so I am not going to be dehydrated for a while", but of "I drank a liter of water so I am much less dehydrated now".

Different definitions of "dehydration". You're talking about "dehydration" as the process of losing moisture, whereas the term as-used here is "dehydration" as the condition of being significantly dehydrated to the point where it's unhealthy.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2011, 01:21:19 pm »

It's still a stupid ruling.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2011, 01:24:31 pm »

It's still a stupid ruling.
Then enlighten us, because everyone else in this thread is saying the opposite, so just coming and saying "it's stupid" is kind of insulting.

(I was more thinking about juices and tea. I know pops are just too sugary.)
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2011, 01:26:13 pm »

Fact: Dehydration comes from not having a sufficient amount of water in your body.

Fact: Drinking water increases the amount of water in your body.

Therefore, water can combat dehydration.

Therefore this ruling is stupid.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2011, 01:28:13 pm »

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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2011, 01:35:43 pm »

Fact: Dehydration comes from not having a sufficient amount of water in your body.

Fact: Drinking water increases the amount of water in your body.

Therefore, water can combat dehydration.

Therefore this ruling is stupid.

Don't you understand the meaning of "prevent"? I think everyone know that lack of water can be fought by drinking water, what they wanted to sell you is that drinking a lot of water would prevent dehydration, while apparently it's completely useless.
That's false advertising and so should be penalized.
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