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Urist McDagger

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So how exactly will the new justice system work
« on: November 10, 2011, 12:24:04 pm »

So far the picture I have of it is:

There are two and a half crimes (being a vampire, tantruming, and being the wrong dwarf at the wrong time).
There are two anti-crime entities (the fortress guard and the hammerer).
The fortress guard has a point now (tracking down vampires, and punishing lawbreakers with immediate imprisonment or beating).
The sheriff is basically a detective/Judge Dredd.
The hammerer is basically a sheriff but without the detective work or command of the militia - an executioner, basically.
The player can accuse almost any dwarf of vampirism and have them imprisoned/beat/executed at any time.

Am I missing something, did I get the wrong impression somewhere, or is that pretty much a good summary of the new justice system?
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Re: So how exactly will the new justice system work
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 02:28:03 pm »

My understanding is that vampirism isn't actually a crime. Bur murder is, and vampires like to murder people.
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Re: So how exactly will the new justice system work
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2011, 02:34:46 pm »

My understanding is that vampirism isn't actually a crime. Bur murder is, and vampires like to murder people.

Considering that every Civ considers "corrupt" things like Undead, Forgotten Beasts, Night Creatures, etc as automatically hostile (unless of course Necromancers and skeletons will be able to live among people, like FB's who merge with a Civ), Vampirism itself being a crime makes sense.

Dwarf Law #1: NO BEING A VAMPIRE
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Re: So how exactly will the new justice system work
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2011, 02:38:26 pm »

My understanding is that vampirism isn't actually a crime. Bur murder is, and vampires like to murder people.

Considering that every Civ considers "corrupt" things like Undead, Forgotten Beasts, Night Creatures, etc as automatically hostile (unless of course Necromancers and skeletons will be able to live among people, like FB's who merge with a Civ), Vampirism itself being a crime makes sense.

Dwarf Law #1: NO BEING A VAMPIRE
Vampires will live among civs, mostly acting normal. They're the first of the internal threat creatures that were a big part of the night creature update.
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Re: So how exactly will the new justice system work
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2011, 04:03:54 pm »

Ooh, what if you got a vampire as one of the starting 7?
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Re: So how exactly will the new justice system work
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2011, 06:15:34 pm »

Then you are in early Fun.
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Re: So how exactly will the new justice system work
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2011, 08:04:16 pm »

But could that actually happen?
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Re: So how exactly will the new justice system work
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2011, 12:12:37 am »

You wouldn't have to worry about the Zombie Slugmen at least, the vamp should make quick work of them :)
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Re: So how exactly will the new justice system work
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2011, 12:34:12 am »

The sheriff is basically a detective/Judge Dredd.

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Re: So how exactly will the new justice system work
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2011, 01:41:00 am »

Ooh, what if you got a vampire as one of the starting 7?
Well, then I would groom him to rule the fortress.
But could that actually happen?
No. The starting seven aren't historical figures until you get them.
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Re: So how exactly will the new justice system work
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2011, 05:21:51 pm »

The hammer is the law. Vampires on the other hand... they are the lore.
Puns aside, I think you've got it straight.
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Re: So how exactly will the new justice system work
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2011, 08:47:52 am »

But the starting 7 are generated out of thin air, aren't they?
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