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[MorleyDev]

You have to give the main credit. In his life time he managed help found a company that by the end of his life time was more evil than even Microsoft has ever been. That takes some serious effort and I think we need to recognise him for it.

[Haspen]

Meh, I hate Apple products.

But the news of his death made me sigh with sadness. May he rest in peace.

[forsaken1111]

This thread makes me sad for multiple reasons.

[ILikePie]

Guess what, I used both. They are meh. And VERY overpriced. The only thing they are for them is that they are improvement over windows systems, who are downright terrible, and easier to use that other UNIX-like systems. But it's generally not worth the price, except if your time is really precious. And that you have no invective to learn a bit of informatics.

Linux and open source stuff tends to break after a while as well. I mean, I've used GNOME for about a year (until the GNOME 3 update in the spring), and I can't say I had a pleasant time trying to fix its various components whenever some other components were updated. Same goes for those Android phones, I've tried using Samsung's newest gadgets, but the user experience is never as good what you get on the iPhone. Also, Apple's stuff may be overpriced, but in my opinion, they are well worth it.

[G-Flex]

Also, Apple's stuff may be overpriced, but in my opinion, they are well worth it.

Isn't this completely paradoxical? If they're "well worth it" then how can they possibly be overpriced?

[ILikePie]

Hurr, I mean, Apple's stuff is expensive, maybe too expensive, but the product *is* amazing.

[Starver]

I STILL find it weird that the second someone dies and criticism and faults that a person was known for instantly evapourate...

How times have changed...

...the evil that men lives after them, the good is oft interred within their bones.  So let it be with Caesar.

(Mind you, he also had said, elsewhere, something along the lines of "Imperious Caesar, turned to clay, might stop a hole to keep the wind away."  Not really relevant, but I just happened to (mis-)remember this, by connection.)


edit: "The evil that men do lives after them..."  All other errors due to some memory failure, but that one was a brain/fingers-interface issue.

edit2: Oh, and I don't associate with much Apple stuff, but would you have preferred a world in which there had been just Microsoft with no nominal competition at certain key times?  For that alone, he deserves credit.

[ILikePie]

Here's another good one:

If, for some reason, we make some big mistake and IBM wins, my personal feeling is that we are going to enter a computer Dark Ages for about twenty years.

[DJ]

RIP and all, but it's really getting on my nerves how TV news are bleating about him being a visionary and innovator. Can anyone actually name a single product that Apple did first?

[nenjin]

The whole GUI was their idea initially iirc. In that off time when Apples were considered a joke and Windows was just beginning, they took that idea and applied it wholesale, even improved it. The GUI has basically defined computing for end-users since then.

[DJ]

I thought Xerox beat them to that.

[nenjin]

[The Alto] was not a commercial product, but several thousand units were built and were heavily used at PARC, other Xerox facilities, and at several universities for many years. The Alto greatly influenced the design of personal computers in the following decades, notably the Apple Macintosh and the first Sun workstations.

Woz and Jobs incorporated the GUI into Lisa (which didn't sell well) and the Mac (which sold better.) By the time they made the Apple IIGS, right when Windows was beginning, they were basically using the same visual format.

So you're right, technically Xerox had the first. The Two were the ones that put that gave it a commercial application for all end users, and their conception of it is, at least to me, still largely intact today regardless of whether you're on Windows or iOS.

[LuckyNinja]

I heard his funeral going to be simple, as he stated he didn't want it to be flash. He also stated that no coffee will be consumed as he absolutely could not stand java. The funeral will however available to the public, albeit for some very low prices: $500.99 to enter the cemetery, $0.99 for every word from the vicar and $300 to watch the coffin be set down. People will be reminded that they will be able to view from one direction only, and the funeral directors will not take responsibility if this proves to be inadequate or provide inconsistent coverage of the event.


However, I do agree that, while he was no inventor, he was certainly a visionary who understood what it took to inspire people. I mean, who else has ever managed to suddenly rise from nothing and be able to drive a massive crowd into a religious fervour and convince them of their own superiority with his speeches?

Maybe I'm being too harsh on Jobs. He has changed the face of the computing industry through his shrewd business practice, and brought about many products and services like iTunes, the iMac and autocorrect. So I think it's only fitting that I write this using the software you brought to life.
 
Rest In Penis Steve.

[DJ]

He was a marketing genius, I have to give him that.

[Aklyon]

Steve Jobs: Great at marketing, great at shininess and fancy looking software. Not good at making anything I'd want to use or pay for, though.

Requiescat in pace.