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World Police, we can take on the world, we could win a land war in Asia, god damn it!

24 (20.9%)

Matched Force, enough power to take on any other nation one on one and win

34 (29.6%)

Force Projection, enough to have influence around the world, but no real capability for a full on war in a foreign nation

10 (8.7%)

Fulfilling Treaty Obligations, no more

22 (19.1%)

Homeland Defense, no more

16 (13.9%)

Nuclear Deterrent is enough

4 (3.5%)

We need no military power at all

5 (4.3%)

Total Members Voted: 115

[counting]

So the near future war becomes like this

Image: Joe Zeff Design; Mansour Ali Photography, Getty images (background)

So that's why Call of Duty keeps getting developed...damn American propaganda

This is no joking actually. Every piece of military techs from the "big dog" robot, mule, automatic rocket launchers, drone bomber, are real. It's whether or not they will become mainstream weaponry.

[Strife26]

Ps.

Every male in brazil is legally part of the reserve. Not presenting yourself when you're 18 for military service is illegal here. Even if you don't get picked, you get a document saying you're in the reserve, so technically, for all purposes, every male citizen above 18 here is part of the military.

Most countries use conscripts are the same as well. In Taiwan, you even needs certifications to go abroad, proving you have served you country already. (For kids who have not served the army in college, going abroad even finding jobs are very hard until recent years unless you have privileges, you are very likely end-up in court martial if you escape this responsibility, sentence to 5+ years)

And every male over the age of 18 in the United States is supposed to be registered in Selective Service. Doesn't mean a thing. When it gets to the point where you're hoping to depend on that sort of militia, you're already fucked.

[Heron TSG]

Ps.

Every male in brazil is legally part of the reserve. Not presenting yourself when you're 18 for military service is illegal here. Even if you don't get picked, you get a document saying you're in the reserve, so technically, for all purposes, every male citizen above 18 here is part of the military.

Most countries use conscripts are the same as well. In Taiwan, you even needs certifications to go abroad, proving you have served you country already. (For kids who have not served the army in college, going abroad even finding jobs are very hard until recent years unless you have privileges, you are very likely end-up in court martial if you escape this responsibility, sentence to 5+ years)

And every male over the age of 18 in the United States is supposed to be registered in Selective Service. Doesn't mean a thing. When it gets to the point where you're hoping to depend on that sort of militia, you're already fucked.

Isn't the Selective Service primarily used for the draft, and thus the rapid selection of new troops to train, not a militia? I don't think registering alone gives you enough training to be considered part of a real militia...

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Selective Service replaced the old draft system after a bunch of court cases in the 70's over Vietnam. They can't arrest you if you don't sign up anymore.

[Heron TSG]

True, but they can deny you many government benefits.

[counting]

We have a saying that every boy will be different after serving the army. He will be a man after that. I doubt it very much. But it is actually a solid foundation with youngman's bonding. (No pon intended). You can find common topic with others at your age in conversations regarding the tough days in military service to any man.

[Megaman]

We have a saying that every boy will be different after serving the army. He will be a man after that.

They will, more or less. If you can take the life of another, you're pretty much mentally prepared for anything.

[Soulwynd]

Killing is easier than marriage.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

We have a saying that every boy will be different after serving the army. He will be a man after that.

They will, more or less. If you can take the life of another, you're pretty much mentally prepared for anything.

Not really. If you can take the life of another, all that proves is that you have managed to turn off rather strong the mental inhibitor that tells you not to kill other humans. Of course, remembering to turn that block back on while you aren't in a combat situation is just as vital. It certainly doesn't make you safe from emotional or mental harm, even harm relating to taking the life of another.

That's sort of why PTSD is a very concerning thing.

[counting]

I don't think military service really does that to you. The most you learn is how to eat, sleep, in a really big and crank barrack and kixx-axx to superior officers.

[Lord Shonus]

The biggest thing that uniformed service gives you is discipline, the sense of subordinating yourself into a greater whole. The second biggest thing that it gives you is the confidence in your own individuality to survive such subordination.

[kaijyuu]

Discipline is great and all, if it's self discipline. Teaching subordination doesn't really help with anything other than organizations like the military, where you're just a cog in a machine. Individuality my ass.

[RedKing]

Discipline is great and all, if it's self discipline. Teaching subordination doesn't really help with anything other than organizations like the military, where you're just a cog in a machine.

Umm, you mean like virtually every organization in the world? I work in a company that has the size and economic clout of a small nation (HP), for a Federal law enforcement agency, which is itself just a part of the Department of Justice, which is part of the vast Federal bureaucracy. I'm a tiny-ass cog in multiple machines. If I were a member of an organized religion, I'd be yet another cog. Being a cog of some sort or another is what 99% of people in the industrialized world are going to wind up as.

[counting]

I don't think been told what to do needed any training at all. It's just killing your brain cells and becoming a drone. Everybody can do that. There is nothing to gain by "learning" that. It's the opposite which teachings you how to become an independent man and take responsibility means a great deal. (Been an officer, etc.)

[Strife26]

Discipline is great and all, if it's self discipline. Teaching subordination doesn't really help with anything other than organizations like the military, where you're just a cog in a machine. Individuality my ass.

That's a good thing, man. It's called learning to work as a team, to do the unpleasant work because you're the one who's best at it, or because it'll better everyone else. There is *no* job out there that doesn't require subordination. None at all.