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World Police, we can take on the world, we could win a land war in Asia, god damn it!

24 (20.9%)

Matched Force, enough power to take on any other nation one on one and win

34 (29.6%)

Force Projection, enough to have influence around the world, but no real capability for a full on war in a foreign nation

10 (8.7%)

Fulfilling Treaty Obligations, no more

22 (19.1%)

Homeland Defense, no more

16 (13.9%)

Nuclear Deterrent is enough

4 (3.5%)

We need no military power at all

5 (4.3%)

Total Members Voted: 115

[Dsarker]

Discipline is great and all, if it's self discipline. Teaching subordination doesn't really help with anything other than organizations like the military, where you're just a cog in a machine. Individuality my ass.

That's a good thing, man. It's called learning to work as a team, to do the unpleasant work because you're the one who's best at it, or because it'll better everyone else. There is *no* job out there that doesn't require subordination. None at all.

Except if you were, hypothetically, the world dictator.

[Flying Dice]

Discipline is great and all, if it's self discipline. Teaching subordination doesn't really help with anything other than organizations like the military, where you're just a cog in a machine. Individuality my ass.

That's a good thing, man. It's called learning to work as a team, to do the unpleasant work because you're the one who's best at it, or because it'll better everyone else. There is *no* job out there that doesn't require subordination. None at all.

Except if you were, hypothetically, the world dictator.

Or a god(dess). Hypothetically, of course.

[Strife26]

Discipline is great and all, if it's self discipline. Teaching subordination doesn't really help with anything other than organizations like the military, where you're just a cog in a machine. Individuality my ass.

That's a good thing, man. It's called learning to work as a team, to do the unpleasant work because you're the one who's best at it, or because it'll better everyone else. There is *no* job out there that doesn't require subordination. None at all.

Except if you were, hypothetically, the world dictator.

I'd contend that *especially* for the world dictator, you've got to be subordinate. Not to people, but to limited resources. Why is our average tin pot dictator is so sucky at actually running his country (beside the corruption, nepotism, and violence) is because they're so bad at realizing that they are damn sure subordinate to reality.


I've got nothing really good to limit a god(dess).

[Dsarker]

Discipline is great and all, if it's self discipline. Teaching subordination doesn't really help with anything other than organizations like the military, where you're just a cog in a machine. Individuality my ass.

That's a good thing, man. It's called learning to work as a team, to do the unpleasant work because you're the one who's best at it, or because it'll better everyone else. There is *no* job out there that doesn't require subordination. None at all.

Except if you were, hypothetically, the world dictator.

I'd contend that *especially* for the world dictator, you've got to be subordinate. Not to people, but to limited resources. Why is our average tin pot dictator is so sucky at actually running his country (beside the corruption, nepotism, and violence) is because they're so bad at realizing that they are damn sure subordinate to reality.


I've got nothing really good to limit a god(dess).

They also typically have limited powers, and in several cases are also mortal.

[Strife26]

If we want to argue a limited god(dess) of the sort I like to write about, then it's certainly important (and in said writing, that's a major theme, I'd say.).


However, if we're talking about an all-powerful God, then I suppose that it doesn't matter.

Unless you aren't actually subordinate to anything, knowing how to be subordinate is an important skill.