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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #5025 on: March 09, 2015, 02:12:06 pm »

Do you mean you don't lose if they die or they have basic self preservation skills?

Because I've had a squadate get run over by a tank.  An allied tank.
The first one. Do you mean that if they all die, you lose?
And believe me, I've experienced ARMA AI. I once called over my mates in a truck, who then promptly ran me over.
I survive, so I imagine the PC giving them one hell of a glare afterwards.

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« Reply #5026 on: March 09, 2015, 02:15:29 pm »

When I played ARMA 3 over a year ago, if any of your squadmates died they went into like a bleedout mode, and then if you didn't get to them in time you lost.
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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #5027 on: March 09, 2015, 02:27:09 pm »

I didn't like the ARMA 3 campaign because the harder modes expect you to be John Rambo to succeed when you're routinely heavily outnumbered and your guerilla buddies aren't too good at outshooting the AI as was the case in ARMA 2.
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« Reply #5028 on: March 09, 2015, 02:45:25 pm »

Operation Flashpoint (The original, not the sequel) and the ARMA series is kind of like that. There's this particular feeling of helplessness that I get knowing that even if I'm a hero it will do crap because the operation itself is FUBAR.
The thing I like about ARMA/Operation Flashpoint is that there's helicopters/tanks/machine gunners/whatever... And you don't get a rocket launcher to deal with them. Sure, you can find it off some soldiers you kill, but if you don't find any there won't be one conveniently lying around. You'll just have to crawl in the dirt and hope to God that helicopter decides killing you isn't worth it's time.

This so hard, except the original OFP's squad combat system is incredibly unwieldy; hope you like menus during a heated battle! And the tank missions suck, because it's entirely luck whether your AI crewmates interpret your commands correctly and quickly enough.

When the AI and the mission scripting are working as intended, however, it's one of the most intense games I've ever played. A lot of it does, indeed, come from fear of the enemy's vehicles; nothing like seeing a tank on the horizon and realizing that you left the LAW behind much earlier in the mission, when the soldier carrying it died. It's a shame that they weren't able to and/or didn't make the game closer to an open-world experience, because the game world is quite expansive and I'm positive there are parts that don't get covered during the campaign missions.
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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #5029 on: March 09, 2015, 03:15:36 pm »

Operation Flashpoint (The original, not the sequel) and the ARMA series is kind of like that. There's this particular feeling of helplessness that I get knowing that even if I'm a hero it will do crap because the operation itself is FUBAR.
The thing I like about ARMA/Operation Flashpoint is that there's helicopters/tanks/machine gunners/whatever... And you don't get a rocket launcher to deal with them. Sure, you can find it off some soldiers you kill, but if you don't find any there won't be one conveniently lying around. You'll just have to crawl in the dirt and hope to God that helicopter decides killing you isn't worth it's time.

This so hard, except the original OFP's squad combat system is incredibly unwieldy; hope you like menus during a heated battle! And the tank missions suck, because it's entirely luck whether your AI crewmates interpret your commands correctly and quickly enough.

When the AI and the mission scripting are working as intended, however, it's one of the most intense games I've ever played. A lot of it does, indeed, come from fear of the enemy's vehicles; nothing like seeing a tank on the horizon and realizing that you left the LAW behind much earlier in the mission, when the soldier carrying it died. It's a shame that they weren't able to and/or didn't make the game closer to an open-world experience, because the game world is quite expansive and I'm positive there are parts that don't get covered during the campaign missions.
Might I recommend the mod Pilgrimage if you're looking for an open world experience? It sounds exactly like what you're looking for.

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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #5030 on: March 09, 2015, 06:30:57 pm »

I'd like to see a 4x game with both science-fiction elements (like Master of Orion) AND high-fantasy elements (like Master of Magic or Warlock: Master of the Arcane)
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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #5031 on: March 09, 2015, 06:33:03 pm »

Endless Legend is a lot like that, but it goes light on both elements so it might not be your thing.
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« Reply #5032 on: March 09, 2015, 06:39:44 pm »

I'd like a 4x game that doesn't have the "rolling ball" effect so often present in other games, where the hardest period of the game is usually the early one, until you snowball in size/technology and start rolling over all your opponents and they can do nothing about it.
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« Reply #5033 on: March 09, 2015, 07:45:55 pm »

I'd like a 4x game that doesn't have the "rolling ball" effect so often present in other games, where the hardest period of the game is usually the early one, until you snowball in size/technology and start rolling over all your opponents and they can do nothing about it.
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« Reply #5034 on: March 10, 2015, 01:04:59 am »

I had an idea a while back for a shooter where you play as a kitten who works as an exterminator, and you go into these little mouse cities that are themed after whatever kind of building the mice are infesting and you gun them all down. Sort of a combination of Hotline Miami, Postal, and ]i]Grand Theft Auto[/i], but woth funny animals and corpses that can be devoured for bonuses and/or powerups.
That is super dark...I like it.

Other features/details I've considered for this game concept:
-Mouse disguise. Disguise yourself as a mouse
-Several scoring methods; speed, stealth, gruesomeness, style, completion
-Most mice are civilians - (women and children mouse civilians too); you may have to chase them down and/or find them in hiding for full completion
-But many are too naive to flee immediately upon seeing you however; they think they're in something closer to the type of funny animal cartoon where species is purely cosmetic
-Many of the other characters are the opposite, and more than usually/realistically hostile towards vermin.
-Alternate roleplaying solutions to levels. Instead of hunting them all down, you may be able to, for example, ask around and find out where their main water supply is and poison it.
-Maybe borrow the psychadelic catnip thing from Postal 2; it's more apropos here anyway.
-There needs to be a crazy large number of weapons, including use of non-weapon objects as improvised weapons
-Dismemberment should be modeled at least as extensively as in Postal 2 or Fallout New Vegas. Preferably moreso, like limb and organ damage in Dwarf Fortress.
-Lots of weird theme levels and weird mice subtypes. Elemental mice, mermice, robo-mice. There's a lot of more normally themed levels too though.
-Procedural level generator in addition to prefab levels.

I wonder how much it would cost to have this game made. Maybe I could do a kickstarter.
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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #5035 on: March 10, 2015, 04:28:06 am »

Something like Poker Night at the Inventory, but with Sterling Archer and/or Deadpool.
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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #5036 on: March 10, 2015, 05:12:07 am »

Something WWII and unique, every game that has to do with WWII is either a shooter, an online shooter, a strategy game, or the occasional game about airplanes.

Just in a WWII sort of mood today.
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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #5037 on: March 10, 2015, 05:24:13 am »

Submarine simulations?
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Re: Games you wish existed
« Reply #5038 on: March 10, 2015, 05:27:07 am »

Submarine simulations?
Not Steel Diver presumably?
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« Reply #5039 on: March 10, 2015, 05:31:25 am »

Silent Hunter. I needed to load up Steam to remember the name...

I've only played the 3rd one, but it's pretty cool. You're a German U-boat Captain in WWII, and you can change the level of simulation so it can be a fairly casual thing (find a ship, shoot it) to ultra-hardcore (find a ship, figure out ships bearing speed and angle, do math, shoot it, most likely miss and (depending on which year or what you were trying to shoot) spend the next 15 minutes dodging depth charges)

It's got a dynamic campaign with tech that unlocks over the course of the war, on both sides. It's comparitively easy to do stuff in the early war, but getting toward the end it's... challenging.
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