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[pilgrimboy]

Just my post mortum.

I enjoyed it early on. But it was impossible to gear up without the auction house. And then they added paragon levels, making it even more difficult for me to get good equipment. Frustrating.

I think the biggest problem with the game was that they designed it with the auction house in mind. They should have just designed a great game that you could gear up in and put the auction house on top of that.

As for the story, I think all the ire is funny. It's just a hack-n-slash. I guess that is the way Blizzard felt too.

But I won't play it any more. I will have to buy the expansion to enjoy the game it sounds like. And I don't really want to give them any more money.

[Darkmere]

But I won't play it any more. I will have to buy the expansion to enjoy the game it sounds like. And I don't really want to give them any more money.

All the auction houses die this coming Tuesday, so the item market has been excised. To give you an idea, the characters I had at max level that were AH geared have all self-found at least half a suit of upgrades in the past week. Paragon levels no longer grant magic find (and magic find itself has been almost entirely removed). As far as I can tell, the vanilla end-game has very achievable goals even without the expansion, including top-tier gem crafting costs cut from 30 million gold each to 100,000 gold per gem.

[forsaken1111]

You get nice magic find boosts iirc by being on a team with other people and staying close to one another. Much better loot drops that way.

[Sinistar]

-snip-

This actually sounds like a game I'd like to play...

I bought this game over a year ago, for my birthday.
I played it maybe 2 weeks, and got into another game.
A few week later I decided to give Diablo III another go.

But alas, my account was blocked and disabled due to 'suspicious activity'.
The only way they want to re-open it for me, is when I send them a copy of my passport.
Which is against the law where I come from. Passport is government property, and I am not allowed to put a digital copy on the internet. ( Dutch law ).

FUCK BLIZZARD I WANT MY MONEY, OR MY ACCOUNT BACK

THIS however just sucks.
And it sucks they defend this always-online crap with such excuses like "we made this an online game, not offline".

Still, might finally grab it, if I see it somewhere for 10€ or less.

[forsaken1111]

Which is against the law where I come from. Passport is government property, and I am not allowed to put a digital copy on the internet. ( Dutch law ).

Can't you fax it? In any case as far as I am aware it is only illegal to make a color copy of the passport. if you do a black and white copy you should be fine. We have the same law in the US.

[Biowraith]

Might've been posted already, but on the topic of the story I quite enjoyed this summary:

Diablo 3 in 3 minutes



As for the gameplay, I never found it to be the abomination some did, but it also never really grabbed me too much - the basic running around slaughtering hordes of baddies is always fun, but I wasn't too enamoured with the skill system and obviously loot was poorly done.  I'll probably revisit it with all the changes, but it's behind finishing the games I got in the xmas sale(s) and AoW3's upcoming release in my queue (and quite probably something else will have pushed ahead of it by the time I'm done with them).  I definitely don't see myself buying the expansion at that price though.

[nenjin]

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This actually sounds like a game I'd like to play...

It's a game I do play. But see this:

Might've been posted already, but on the topic of the story I quite enjoyed this summary:
Diablo 3 in 3 minutes

For why it's not enjoyable (the video actually misses plenty of other choice moments.) It's basically B-movie bad entertainment, but you kind of want something better for a series you really liked. Blizzard just went overboard, and no it doesn't surprise me given the gap between the Blizzards of Diablo 2 and 3. The older games worked because they were understated, whereas D3 trumpets constantly. Decent plotting would have helped a ton, but it was just insult after injury during release. Act III pretty much says everything about the feel of the story, and while that video paraphrases, it is pretty much dead accurate.

I didn't really realize how attached I was to the Diablo storyline until it mutated into Diablo 3. I even would have enjoyed the expanded world, demons, angels, angel-humans, whatever, if it hadn't gone so horribly off the rails.

[hikarikami]

I've always loved the universe and lore of the Diablo games, and I 100% agree they totally butchered the storyline, dialogue and character personalities of Diablo III. To me it feels like they took a great movie, and made a terrible B-Grade saturday cartoon out of it. Still, the good thing with Diablo is that once you've done your first play through, you never really need to pay attention to any of the awful voice acting, storyline or flat character personalities again. Although I'd love to be able to turn the voices off of my companions. They say the most ridiculously stupid things constantly.

[nenjin]

You get nice magic find boosts iirc by being on a team with other people and staying close to one another. Much better loot drops that way.

IIRC, this doesn't happen anymore. My Magic Find on a full group in Torment II is at 24%. It rarely if ever shows up on items now.

[Zangi]

More atmosphere, less exposition I say.

The old games had that.

[nenjin]

More atmosphere, less exposition I say.

The old games had that.

I think D3 has more, although not necessarily always better, atmosphere than D2. There are lots of flourishes, good looking fog, interesting lighting, tons of environmental detail. I honestly enjoy the levels when I'm playing solo and have time to appreciate it. D2 by contrast was very dark, and claustrophic. Everything was gritty. But that's why D3 gets seen as a cartoon, because the style differences are that stark.

But as soon as a major story character opens their gob in D3, or giant c-c-c-combo messages come across my screen, the atmosphere evaporates for me. As when a fountain of light erupts forth from me when I level. That said, the side tales and vignettes seem to be way, way better voiced and written than the main story parts.

[Sonlirain]

More atmosphere, less exposition I say.

The old games had that.

I think D3 has more, although not necessarily always better, atmosphere than D2. There are lots of flourishes, good looking fog, interesting lighting, tons of environmental detail. I honestly enjoy the levels when I'm playing solo and have time to appreciate it. D2 by contrast was very dark, and claustrophic. Everything was gritty. But that's why D3 gets seen as a cartoon, because the style differences are that stark.

But as soon as a major story character opens their gob in D3, or giant c-c-c-combo messages come across my screen, the atmosphere evaporates for me. As when a fountain of light erupts forth from me when I level. That said, the side tales and vignettes seem to be way, way better voiced and written than the main story parts.

Imo D2 went awaywith most "claustrophobia" and darkness as most of it takes place out on fresh air in contrast to D1 where the ENTIRE game was underground.
Not to mention that D2 was pretty damn bright... especially Act 2.

[nenjin]

By comparison to D1, yeah, D2 is bright and open. But I thought dungeons retained those feels of darkness and claustrophobia. What honestly happened was their level generation code got better, way cleaner, but it also resulted in less interesting arrangements (I recall a lot of horrifying "turn the corner" moments in D1 because of weird geometry, less in D2.) And truth be told, the magma layer and Hell in D1 were both pretty completely lit. But D2 still had that gritty aesthetic which, while it didn't really change the desert levels, it made the Jungle levels feel pretty dark and creepy.

But D3 looks like noonday sunlight compared to both, even when it's trying to be dark, because D3 avoided absolute darkness pretty much as a rule.

[Darkmere]

I actually thought D2 was a bit too dark in places (The act 3 underground stuff and act IV comes to mind) to convey enough gameplay information to the player. I recall fiddling with brightness settings and getting a washed-out look, then getting frustrated and coping with grainy, gritty black on black on gray. I kinda think each has their strong points...

D3's levels are straightforward and readable in almost every circumstance. However this does make them a bit straightforward and simplistic at times...
But...
It also doesn't have anything as face-punchingly frustrating as Durance of Hate 3 (the colossally huge one) or the sandworm lair... Or the damn rivers at the start of D2's act 3.

Conversely, D3 also has very few truly *special* memorable areas, like the arcane/chaos sanctuaries or Arreat summit. I like bridge of korsikk and Kulle's archives; those two had some character.

[Sinistar]

It's a game I do play. But see this:

Might've been posted already, but on the topic of the story I quite enjoyed this summary:
Diablo 3 in 3 minutes

Wow.
This is...bad. Hilariously bad.
I...uh. 
You know, I AM laughing at how bad it is. And I can see myself laughing while playing because this...this just feels like a bad, BAD parody of previous Diablo games.
Or maybe it's a genius kind of parody? 
But as someone who liked the whole atmosphere of 2nd one...yes, this is almost insulting.