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Author Topic: Kerbal Space Program: Now Hiring Optimistic Astronauts for Dangerous Munission  (Read 1508976 times)

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Re: Kerbal Space Program: Now Hiring Optimistic Astronauts for Dangerous Munission
« Reply #6300 on: October 22, 2013, 10:28:13 pm »
Quote from: Glloyd on October 22, 2013, 09:57:48 pm
Quote from: BigD145 on October 22, 2013, 09:46:42 pm
More ugly over-engineering from me. Sub 70 ton "rover". Three crew so far. Kerbals can walk around inside and get to the roof. At the very least it can just drive around Kerbin. Extraplanetary Launchpad could get it on other solar bodies.
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It still needs oh so much space tape.

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Still a work in progress, but sure. Fair warning: little to no symmetry used. Rover wheel symmetry sucks in general. It needs to be built around squares and almost everything is circles. Parts have one connection, which is where the space tape comes in. So much space tape needed. So many ill-fitting parts. I wish Kerbals could climb over ladder edges. Have fun with it, though. Alt+F12 for part clipping is a must. Center of mass is way too high. I bet it flips the moment it hits Mun's surface.
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Re: Kerbal Space Program: Now Hiring Optimistic Astronauts for Dangerous Munission
« Reply #6301 on: October 22, 2013, 10:33:17 pm »
You can sort of get around those problems by making one part, like just the front, and then copying it over to make the back. Subassemblies probably also make it a ton easier too!
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« Reply #6302 on: October 22, 2013, 10:47:24 pm »
I did that originally. Most of the back was done so I alt-clicked the spine to copy. Now I'm actually tempted to design a dockable version made of four or five parts, two sets of two parts and a crew hub for control. Just quarter the thing. I think KAS or Quantum Struts would be needed.
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Re: Kerbal Space Program: Now Hiring Optimistic Astronauts for Dangerous Munission
« Reply #6303 on: October 22, 2013, 11:47:12 pm »
Awesome, thanks. I just want to mess with it/see if I could get it to orbit.
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Re: Kerbal Space Program: Now Hiring Optimistic Astronauts for Dangerous Munission
« Reply #6304 on: October 22, 2013, 11:53:32 pm »
Quote from: Glloyd on October 22, 2013, 11:47:12 pm
Awesome, thanks. I just want to mess with it/see if I could get it to orbit.

Yeah, I was wondering about that. It's almost 600 parts now. If you want a much sturdier version, here you go. 0 is a lighting hotkey.
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Re: Kerbal Space Program: Now Hiring Optimistic Astronauts for Dangerous Munission
« Reply #6305 on: October 23, 2013, 01:05:32 am »
Awesome, thanks. I'm going to try sending this up on the back of my heaviest rocket. We'll see how this goes....
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Re: Kerbal Space Program: Now Hiring Optimistic Astronauts for Dangerous Munission
« Reply #6306 on: October 23, 2013, 02:44:05 am »
Quote from: BigD145 on October 22, 2013, 10:47:24 pm
I did that originally. Most of the back was done so I alt-clicked the spine to copy. Now I'm actually tempted to design a dockable version made of four or five parts, two sets of two parts and a crew hub for control. Just quarter the thing. I think KAS or Quantum Struts would be needed.
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I love big rovers. Reminds me of my old Falinesti design. What's the top speed and climbing angle on that rover?
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Re: Kerbal Space Program: Now Hiring Optimistic Astronauts for Dangerous Munission
« Reply #6307 on: October 23, 2013, 05:48:31 am »
Hey does anyone know if there is a Mechjeb compatible with this version? And if so, where to find it? Would like to try it out.
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Re: Kerbal Space Program: Now Hiring Optimistic Astronauts for Dangerous Munission
« Reply #6308 on: October 23, 2013, 06:09:19 am »
Search the thread for "mechjeb". First or second result should have a link.
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Re: Kerbal Space Program: Now Hiring Optimistic Astronauts for Dangerous Munission
« Reply #6309 on: October 23, 2013, 07:40:57 am »
Why does everyone take pictures of their rovers at night?
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Re: Kerbal Space Program: Now Hiring Optimistic Astronauts for Dangerous Munission
« Reply #6310 on: October 23, 2013, 08:27:22 am »
Quote from: BFEL on October 23, 2013, 05:48:31 am
Hey does anyone know if there is a Mechjeb compatible with this version? And if so, where to find it? Would like to try it out.
http://jenkins.mumech.com/job/MechJeb2/

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Re: Kerbal Space Program: Now Hiring Optimistic Astronauts for Dangerous Munission
« Reply #6311 on: October 23, 2013, 08:38:54 am »
Ok, I have encountered a bit of an engineering problem with my spaceplane.

Specifically, this spaceplane:

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As you can see, this being unable to take off is a complete travesty, given that it is the SEXIEST THING IN THE GODDAMN UNIVERSE.

This marvel of engineering was created to bypass a simple flaw in the abilities of our engineers, specifically the inability to put decouplers on jet engines.
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And From Above:
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So as you can probably see, the basic idea is that it takes off as a jet, rises as high as possible and then decouples to its atomic engines, which then allow it to travel through space properly.
When it is time for the ship to come home, the ship enters a path toward the atmosphere of its choosing and then AIRDROPS THE SMALLER PLANE FROM ORBIT.

Now on to the actual problem.
The problem I'm having is that the six engines in the back immediately flameout as soon as I attempt to activate them.
It seems to be related to air intake as when I turned the "infinite fuel" cheat on they worked perfectly.
This is despite the rather obvious intakes attached to that stage of the plane.

Anyone know what could be causing this?
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Re: Kerbal Space Program: Now Hiring Optimistic Astronauts for Dangerous Munission
« Reply #6312 on: October 23, 2013, 08:46:05 am »
You do realize that the engines you have in the back are aerospikes? Specifically, Toroidal Aerospike Rocket Engines?

They kind of need oxidizer. ;)
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Re: Kerbal Space Program: Now Hiring Optimistic Astronauts for Dangerous Munission
« Reply #6313 on: October 23, 2013, 08:46:44 am »
I think this is a hardware problem that can be resolved with software.

Air intake depends on number of intakes and speed.  Flameout depends on air intake and number of engines.  Increase the intakes, increase speed, or reduce the engines.

So here's what you do.  Stage 1 is the two center-rear engines.  Stage 2 is the outermost engines.  Stage 3 is the innermost engines.  Let the first engines start picking up speed, which will increase your airflow, and allow you to turn on more engines...

You could add some radial air intakes, but that would be far too ugly for such a glorious craft!
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Re: Kerbal Space Program: Now Hiring Optimistic Astronauts for Dangerous Munission
« Reply #6314 on: October 23, 2013, 09:04:26 am »
Change the turbojet engine to a toroidal aero spike and turn the toroidal aero spikes into turbojets  :P
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