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Is the 3D (movies. TV, etc.) 'experience' worth the added cost?

Yes, totally worth it! 3D is awesome!
- 1 (1.6%)
No, it's nothing more than a money making gimmick
- 35 (57.4%)
Can't say... I haven't seen any of it yet...
- 8 (13.1%)
It depends on the content (movie, etc.)...
- 17 (27.9%)

Total Members Voted: 61


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Re: 3D: First movies, now TV's and even games; but should we really care?
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2011, 02:24:57 am »

I guess it could be worse. You could have one eye, and be deaf. Then you wouldn't get to hear totally radnasty music.

Wrong sense. One eye (Working, it's not removed yet) and functionally mute. All I can say reliably are my younger sister and girlfriends names, and yes and no.

And it involves a tree, bit of a story I'm tired going over.

But yeah, I personally think 3D is cool when done right, and I hope it's developed further into a form that doesn't distort the picture as it currently does.
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Re: 3D: First movies, now TV's and even games; but should we really care?
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2011, 02:26:30 am »

Yeah, that's alright, but care to elaborate what you mean by "wrong sense"? I am pretty sure deaf means unable to hear, but I did not imply deaf and having less and eye were at all related.
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Re: 3D: First movies, now TV's and even games; but should we really care?
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2011, 02:27:32 am »

No no no I mean how you said at least you're not deaf but I actually can't really talk. Just being silly on my part.
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Re: 3D: First movies, now TV's and even games; but should we really care?
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2011, 02:35:43 am »

 Woah, I never knew. I kind of feel bad for secretly hating you now. 0_o
 Well, I respect you for not whining about it all the time, like some people. I have a large physical disability and feel sick when someone uses disabilities as an excuse to whine.

 Anyway, back on topic, when I meant art direction, I meant that most games of the future will probably be more stylized, probably a lot will be cartoony, maybe use various filters to set them apart from the rest. I look forward to the time when graphics will stop improving, since then maybe people will look at graphics as an actual art instead of  "LOOK AT THOSE REALISTIC GRAPHIX! OMG R0X0RZ!"
 
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Re: 3D: First movies, now TV's and even games; but should we really care?
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2011, 02:43:39 am »

I don't really care about 3D movies as they are right now.

3D holograms are okay and cool as hell in my book though.
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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2011, 02:46:29 am »

My mind is full of so many question marks about the last few posts.

As for 3D, I saw Avatar at the IMAX in Chicago. I'm not sure if it was bad seats, me wearing glasses underneath more glasses, or it was the full experience as it was meant to be seen, but I felt so let down. I got some of the 3D effects but it felt only slightly better than anything I'd seen 10 years back with the blue and red stuff. Which is pretty goddamn bad. This pretty much sums up my feelings on 3d as a whole. The movie itself was ok, and I got some hilarious stories about annoying people sitting nearby.

 It's nice that it works for some people, but why does this have to be the big new fad that everyone is trying to work their shit into? The only reason I'm generally apathetic about the technology is that you can get away with ignoring it; you aren't missing out on much (if any) exclusive content. As long as this doesn't change, I don't really care.
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Re: 3D: First movies, now TV's and even games; but should we really care?
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2011, 04:01:12 am »

I think the media as "movie" itself does not bring out the full potential of 3D display, and it is limited by current 3D display technologies.

As a fixed entertainment in a crowd theater, 3D movie simply as a display medium can achieve so few of its possible applications. 3D vision developed from the need of moving in a complex 3D environments, and a viewer sitting in a fixed seat is not a good way to show 3D.

Think of the holodeck in Star Trek. If someone is bound by sitting in a chair, then it will be pointless to use it. 3D is about interaction, hence 3D movie is doomed from the beginning, but might find its way in the form of more interactive media (like video gaming). And the idea of holodeck also tells us, the current 3D display technologies are really primitive, and have long way to go in order to bring out the possibilities. A very simple improvement like different viewers can observe different part of the 3D objects, and shared different perspectives with friends in different details, will be very interesting and really make viewing 3D movies more than once worth the money. (Again, it needs interactive, and technologies)
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Re: 3D: First movies, now TV's and even games; but should we really care?
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2011, 04:24:34 am »

I think 3d is to film what pop-up books are to literature.  Literally.

I do think it has more potential to add to the experience in certain types of video games, especially from a first person perspective.  The technology has a ways to go before it's practical, though.  It currently feels way too unnatural and only ends up being a distraction.
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Re: 3D: First movies, now TV's and even games; but should we really care?
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2011, 04:39:23 am »

I think 3d is to film what pop-up books are to literature.  Literally.

I do think it has more potential to add to the experience in certain types of video games, especially from a first person perspective.  The technology has a ways to go before it's practical, though.  It currently feels way too unnatural and only ends up being a distraction.

Current 3D display is only half the solution I think. The other half is the 3D input. From augmented reality we are now trying to integrated full interaction from virtual world to the real world surrendering the user. And the sensing (position, location detection) will be a crucial part of it. It's easy to forget that we as a human have more than just 3D "vision" to interactive with the world. (Where you stand in a 3D world should effect the viewing by default)
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Re: 3D: First movies, now TV's and even games; but should we really care?
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2011, 04:45:50 am »

3D has its uses, but ultimately it's not a big deal. Certainly not spending a whole lot of extra money for. I wouldn't necessarily call it a gimmick, but it sure as hell is used in gimmicky ways.


Ultimately 3D will fall into obscurity like it has twice before. Unless, of course, the 3D effect can be achieved without a notable price markup on TVs and such.
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Re: 3D: First movies, now TV's and even games; but should we really care?
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2011, 04:46:59 am »

3D in film is primarily used as a gimmick, because it's The New Thing, therefore 1) everyone wants to cash in on it because people are still impressed by its very presence, and 2) we're still figuring how to actually take advantage of it well.

For instance, Werner Herzog's latest documentary (about that stone-age cave-painting... cave) is in 3D, but it took a lot of work to do it properly, and he did it to give the viewer a much better sense of what the place looks like, and a sense of texture and depth.
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Re: 3D: First movies, now TV's and even games; but should we really care?
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2011, 05:26:02 am »

I see the actual 3D fan idiocy as a time of moving forward in 3D research. Maybe we can have some genuis find a new way to represent 3d dimensional pictures in the middle of all the craziness.
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Re: 3D: First movies, now TV's and even games; but should we really care?
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2011, 06:02:19 am »

Not so long ago, I bought red/cyan-glasses after I found a program that provides red/cyan-3D(Among billion other 3D-effects) for every DirectX-game. Loss of colors and very weak 3D-effects.... Meh. I did not experience headaches tough, but generally it's not worth it, before something groundbreaking is invented.
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Re: 3D: First movies, now TV's and even games; but should we really care?
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2011, 06:26:45 am »

I went to an amusement park that had 3D movies that were excellently made. Like, the chairs would move occasionally and water would get sprayed all over your face.

That being said, it was pretty much a made-for-3D movie, and most cinemas probably wouldn't want to spend money on those gimmicks. Never mind home cinema.

Also, those pictures where you have o go cross-eyed to see 3D images. Awesome.
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Re: 3D: First movies, now TV's and even games; but should we really care?
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2011, 07:05:53 am »

I really don't see the point of 3D movies or 3D anything.  It's an extra pair of glasses and a bigger headache just for an optical illusion.
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