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[Deon]

Idea for bars.

Kegtap. Mounted piece that replaces a section of bar counter, fills any container that can hold liquid with one drink of warm, nearly flat beer. Very low morale boost, can't be used for molotovs, and increases thirst the same as any other alcohol.

Actually beer reduces thirst.

[Angle]

It depends on the beer, but usually beer has enough water in it to reduce thirst.

[iceball3]

Idea for bars.

Kegtap. Mounted piece that replaces a section of bar counter, fills any container that can hold liquid with one drink of warm, nearly flat beer. Very low morale boost, can't be used for molotovs, and increases thirst the same as any other alcohol.

Actually beer reduces thirst.

Just as well, I'd expect that diluted alcohol would by slightly quenching as well, right?

[Paul]

Deon,

Downloaded your mod and was playing with it. Accidentally hit A at one point and it closed and lost my save. Found it was repeatable, A closed the game instantly without saving (crash I guess?).

I looked in the source and found

   if (ch == 'A') {
    #ifdef __SDL
    pdc_toggle_fullscreen();
    wrefresh(w_open);
    refresh();
    #endif
   }

Not quite sure what that's trying to do, but it crashes the game for me. Trying to compile your source I can't even compile it due to getting the error "'pdc_toggle_fullscreen' was not declared in this scope." I don't know enough about programming to know what the problem is, though.

[Angle]

That looms like a PD curses function that toggle full screen, which doen's seem to work with the version of PDCurses you have. just comment it out or put if (false) and you'll be fine.

[Drevlin]

Deon,

Downloaded your mod and was playing with it. Accidentally hit A at one point and it closed and lost my save. Found it was repeatable, A closed the game instantly without saving (crash I guess?).

I looked in the source and found

   if (ch == 'A') {
    #ifdef __SDL
    pdc_toggle_fullscreen();
    wrefresh(w_open);
    refresh();
    #endif
   }

Not quite sure what that's trying to do, but it crashes the game for me. Trying to compile your source I can't even compile it due to getting the error "'pdc_toggle_fullscreen' was not declared in this scope." I don't know enough about programming to know what the problem is, though.

Go to output.h and change the line

#define __CURSES

with

#define __SDL

Doing so, it compiles and the program reads deon's tileset properly, preventing some awful graphic glitches (but this don't prevent the crash, I think)

Guys, linux is the way. Windows is developers' hell. 

[Paul]

Changing that just comes up with a new error, telling me A_TILESET was not declared.

Does Deon's source compile alright for everyone else? Was able to compile headswe's source easy enough, is there some extra settings I need to tweak to get Deon's compiled?


Had another issue with Deon's mod. For some reason a bank map failed to generate and just created a big empty floor area. Maybe I should just go back to the ASCII

[Drevlin]

Have you followed CIB's instructions? Here's the thread
You must compile the modified version of pdcurses library, and if you are using code blocks, be careful to modify "lib" and "include" paths. Here it's explained how to change the settings.

[Paul]

Ah, I didn't even look at that other tileset mod. Just downloaded Deon's mod and looked at his thread, never realized it had a dependency on CIB's modified pdcurses.


Heh, now I can't figure out how to get the modified pdcurses to compile. Trying the "make -f Makefile.mng" from the MinGW shell tells me

Code: [Select]

gcc -02 -Wall -I.. -c ../pdcurses/addch.c
cpp: too many input files
make: *** [addch.o] Error 1

[Angle]

As far is inventory, maybe it's time to implement a more complicated system. One that tracks how your storing stuff, what in, etc. For example, when you find a hammer, you could hang it through a loop on your pants, or you could put it in a pocket, or you could put it in your bag, or you could hold it in your hand, etc. Each of these would have different effects, for example if you put it in your bag it will be very secure and if you have to fight you can just drop the bag, but if you want to use it you have to dig it out.

[pandamage]

As far is inventory, maybe it's time to implement a more complicated system. One that tracks how your storing stuff, what in, etc. For example, when you find a hammer, you could hang it through a loop on your pants, or you could put it in a pocket, or you could put it in your bag, or you could hold it in your hand, etc. Each of these would have different effects, for example if you put it in your bag it will be very secure and if you have to fight you can just drop the bag, but if you want to use it you have to dig it out.

I like the current inventory system. The reason an inventory system like what you described works in other games (such as Dwarf Fortress) is because you don't carry a crapton of stuff like in Cataclysm. Sounds like a good idea for a mod though.

[Angle]

Yeah, I don't know if I'm up to that, though. I'm still working myself up to adding electronics stores.

also- I just got attacked by a wolf pack. I see them coming, go "Oh Shit!" Light a molotov... It goes out the same turn. as in, both lines of text are still red. I barely managed to get inside a liquor store, and use the doorway as a choke point. I survived, but it gave me quite the square.

[Jacob/Lee]

Gah, somebody is making alts and spamming other stuff.

[Whales]

As far is inventory, maybe it's time to implement a more complicated system. One that tracks how your storing stuff, what in, etc. For example, when you find a hammer, you could hang it through a loop on your pants, or you could put it in a pocket, or you could put it in your bag, or you could hold it in your hand, etc. Each of these would have different effects, for example if you put it in your bag it will be very secure and if you have to fight you can just drop the bag, but if you want to use it you have to dig it out.

This is something that's been mentioned before, and I'm not into it.  It seems like just a lot of micromanagement and un-fun busywork for the player, and like pandamage says, in Cataclysm you tend to carry a lot of items.  I'd rather just abstract inventory as a total amount of space, without requiring the player to shuffle items around constantly.

[Angle]

And later, I get killed by a wolf. While I don't have a any body part lower than yellow. aaaaaarrgh, wolves!