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johnson21

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Happiness / Spiral of fun
« on: June 06, 2011, 07:12:22 am »

My beautiful fortress seems to be in a spiral towards fun : some dwarves died, their friends went berserk and were taken out by the military, and now their friends are too throwing tantrums !

Is the game maybe a little too harsh on dwarves that have a friend die ? It punishes you for letting them have friends/family... A dwarf with many friends should be consoled, not throw more tantrums !
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Re: Happiness / Spiral of fun
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2011, 07:18:23 am »

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Re: Happiness / Spiral of fun
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2011, 07:52:48 am »

I actuly need help to start my happyness spiral  ::)
i made all my dwarf freind everyone and then i dropped some of them down a 20z tunnel and all of them got sad but they did not go insane and when i took a look ALL of them dont care about anything anymore  :-\
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Re: Happiness / Spiral of fun
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2011, 08:03:59 am »

And here I thought this was going to be an actual spiral of happiness.  Two idle dwarves start talking, throw a party, and eventually the entire fort is partying without doing any work!  Thus adding potential punishments for dwarves being too happy.
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johnson21

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Re: Happiness / Spiral of fun
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2011, 08:19:02 am »

So I guess my suggestions are
  • lower the impact of a friend's death on happiness, or have the number of friends counter the sadness. (in most games socializing is a good thing)
  • implement a way to raise happiness : throw a party, order everybody to drink beer, etc.
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Re: Happiness / Spiral of fun
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 08:21:53 am »

I actuly need help to start my happyness spiral  ::)
i made all my dwarf freind everyone and then i dropped some of them down a 20z tunnel and all of them got sad but they did not go insane and when i took a look ALL of them dont care about anything anymore  :-\

point is, dwarf get happy thoughts if they get to speak to friends actually...so if you kill some, but the others chat, all fine. it's worse if only one dwarf is friend to everyone, and he dies...>.>
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Re: Happiness / Spiral of fun
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2011, 09:22:59 am »

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Urist McHappy hugs the Fish Cleaner in the upper body, jamming his love through the brain and warming his callous heart!
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Re: Happiness / Spiral of fun
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2011, 10:20:09 am »

So I guess my suggestions are
  • lower the impact of a friend's death on happiness, or have the number of friends counter the sadness. (in most games socializing is a good thing)
  • implement a way to raise happiness : throw a party, order everybody to drink beer, etc.
Making the game easier would be incredibly bad.

And they already do those things, by themselves.  This is no Settlers VI.
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johnson21

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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2011, 11:14:17 am »

Making the game easier would be incredibly bad.
They should add random crashes for you.
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Re: Happiness / Spiral of fun
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2011, 01:36:24 pm »

Urist McHappy has entered a fit of euphoria!
Urist McHappy hugs the Fish Cleaner in the upper body, jamming his love through the brain and warming his callous heart!
The Fish Cleaner has been taught the value of friendship!

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Re: Happiness / Spiral of fun
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2011, 03:29:13 pm »

Making the game easier would be incredibly bad.
They should add random crashes for you.
If you're doing it right they stay sane until a master axegoblin runs the gantlet and kills all the children.

Also, I don't think the Great Toadish One In The Sky has time to program random crashes for one person.
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Re: Happiness / Spiral of fun
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2011, 03:39:21 pm »

Urist McHappy has entered a fit of euphoria!
Urist McHappy hugs the Fish Cleaner in the upper body, jamming his love through the brain and warming his callous heart!
The Fish Cleaner has been taught the value of friendship!

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Re: Happiness / Spiral of fun
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2011, 09:42:32 pm »

So I guess my suggestions are
  • lower the impact of a friend's death on happiness, or have the number of friends counter the sadness. (in most games socializing is a good thing)
  • implement a way to raise happiness : throw a party, order everybody to drink beer, etc.
The second is called "Large dining room with decent furniture."
Seriously, if dwarves cared any less, there would be no accidental tantrum spirals except be new players and some unlucky starting forts.
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Re: Happiness / Spiral of fun
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2011, 02:17:46 am »

Haven't you learned yet, ?
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johnson21

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Re: Happiness / Spiral of fun
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2011, 04:57:52 am »

I don't think the Great Toadish One In The Sky has time to program random crashes for one person.

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