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Author Topic: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread  (Read 869927 times)

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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #10155 on: January 19, 2012, 04:42:56 pm »

C): the interview at the end where the husband says nothing through out the whole thing, and when asked what he thinks of the women having the power, the wife speaks for him saying "He's okay with it".

How do you know he wasn't OK with it? Did you speak with him?
I can't say for certain what the man's opinion is, but I know that if the roles were reversed you'd be screaming bloody murder form the rooftop
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« Reply #10156 on: January 19, 2012, 04:47:02 pm »

Immediately jumping to the conclusion that this is oppression is prety radical if you ask me.

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« Reply #10157 on: January 19, 2012, 04:49:59 pm »

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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #10158 on: January 19, 2012, 04:53:45 pm »

Virex, my opinion on you in this thread is leaning back towards troll (or "parodist" or whatever).  Try to stop doing this.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #10159 on: January 19, 2012, 04:55:06 pm »

I kind of agree with Virex to be honest.  A lot in that article did feel pretty anecdotal, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was embellished to be controversial and news-worthy.
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« Reply #10160 on: January 19, 2012, 04:58:51 pm »

I kind of agree with Virex to be honest.  A lot in that article did feel pretty anecdotal, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was embellished to be controversial and news-worthy.

Which means it is a conspiracy to oppress the women in that area?
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« Reply #10161 on: January 19, 2012, 05:00:56 pm »

I don't think there's a conspiracy at work here. There're some men that are fighting for dominance and a reporter that can't shake his patriarchal roots. To him, the men's claims must seem reasonable and the society, as described by them, seems oppressive and anti-male. It's not that he's actively trying to do anything, he's just physically incapable of appreciating equality due to having lived in a patriarchy for so long.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #10162 on: January 19, 2012, 05:02:12 pm »

I kind of agree with Virex to be honest.  A lot in that article did feel pretty anecdotal, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was embellished to be controversial and news-worthy.

Which means it is a conspiracy to oppress the women in that area?

No.  Not sure where you would get that?

Edit:

As far as I can see, the article's only real evidence that men are being oppressed is an interview with one guy.  Frankly the whole last half of that article feels written specifically to make you feel like men are being oppressed without a single shred of evidence.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #10163 on: January 19, 2012, 05:08:00 pm »

I don't think there's a conspiracy at work here. There're some men that are fighting for dominance and a reporter that can't shake his patriarchal roots. To him, the men's claims must seem reasonable and the society, as described by them, seems oppressive and anti-male.

1: what makes you think they are fighting for dominance? Nothing in the article even hints at this.

2: what makes you think the rest of the article is biased by a patriarchal view?

3: if the gender roles were reversed, nearly everything cited in the article would apply to a deeply anti-feminist country like some in the middle east.

The statements you are making are completely groundless based on the article in question.
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« Reply #10164 on: January 19, 2012, 05:22:54 pm »

Remember, Virex doesn't believe misandry is a thing that exists.

Nor does firefox's spell checker, which is saddening.
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Re: Chill and Relaxed Progressive Irritation and Annoyance Thread
« Reply #10165 on: January 19, 2012, 05:24:42 pm »

Firefox's spellchecker has a decent number of holes in its lexicon, to be honest. It could really use some updating.
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« Reply #10166 on: January 19, 2012, 05:26:55 pm »

I don't think there's a conspiracy at work here.

Why not? If you are right all the parts are there. A group of people (mens "rights" group) are trying in secrecy (and it must be secrecy since no one is able to see it but you) to bring about a evil end.

No.  Not sure where you would get that?

I kind of agree with Virex to be honest.
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« Reply #10167 on: January 19, 2012, 05:39:29 pm »

I can multiquote inventively too:  :)

I don't think there's a conspiracy at work here.

Which means it is a conspiracy to oppress the women in that area?

No.  Not sure where you would get that?

Edit:  But I should probably make clear that I agree with Virex in that that the article in question didn't provide enough evidence for me to believe that men were being oppressed.  It felt more sensational than reliable.

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« Reply #10168 on: January 19, 2012, 05:48:02 pm »

I believe Criptfeind is trying to lay out his train of thought, not strawman you.

IE that's what he's reading you to say. If that's not what you're actually saying, that's called a miscommunication. Clear it up and move on :P
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« Reply #10169 on: January 19, 2012, 05:50:49 pm »

I believe Criptfeind is trying to lay out his train of thought, not strawman you.

IE that's what he's reading you to say. If that's not what you're actually saying, that's called a miscommunication. Clear it up and move on :P

Ah I misunderstood.  I apologize. 
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