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[RedKing]

Since almost I ever play is ARAM, I'm interested to see how Kled's ult works and how wide the path is. Would be hilarious to pair him with say, Janna and then TOOT TOOT ALL ABOARD as we train right up the bridge.

[TempAcc]

Its not like people could even willingly abuse it since, well, its ARAM :U

Anyways, here's the game in question:

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Okay, I guess not exactly double the kills of my ADC and midlaner, but damn, they couldn't teamfight if their life depended on it. Even if the graph is in brspeak, you can see how we dominated the early and midgame, only to start losing horribly later when teamfights actualy started to happen because no on my team apart from me and kled could teamfight. The amumu was a boss, and so what the enemy xerath, and whenever I couldn't lock them up or the kled could kill them, they'd walk over our team because our adc had no presence, our yasuo just jumped on random people and died and our shaco was pretty irrelevant after he took some dragons and the herald.

mfw

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[The Scout]

Ashe didn't get Infinity Edge, Shaco has Wit's End, Titanic, Warriors and Zz'rot? No idea about the Yasuo, might be his lack of armor pen?

[BlackHeartKabal]

I sorta wonder if there's really any ADC besides Vayne who can reliably be played top lane...

[eerr]

What about Quinn? She has natural anti melee powers. A blind, a dash, some bonus damage.


At level 1 ADC are the most powerful unit in the game, excepting Fiddlesticks of course.

The thing about ADC top is that a tank or Asian(assassin) just has to wait patiently until they get a couple levels.
The important part is not CSing because it's not worth getting hit, until you can actually fight.

Later, you fight a very destructive duel with very little farming involved. You will be more useful midgame due to level scalings, while the ADC needs to get rich first. Why won't the ADC get rich first? because you don't die to them!

[TempAcc]

Quinn is prob the only adc in the game that can perform well in any lane or role. She's still a strong top laner and jungler, and the only reason vayne is better than her as an adc is her ult and stun. She reqlly ought to be more popular.

[baruk]

Its not like people could even willingly abuse it since, well, its ARAM :U

Anyways, here's the game in question:

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 I've got a simple analysis: your team's damage profile is almost 100% physical - ad top, ad mid, ad support and ad jungle - you have to win relatively early, or you'll get run over by an unstoppable late game tank like Amumu - he even sold boots to get a 6th big armour item. It looks like amumu kept your team busy whilst xerath mopped up a bunch of kills.
 
 Against a single damage type you can go full tank and still do the most damage on the team, here's a few examples I plucked from the archives:
Gragas vs Zed One for All
Malphite against an all ad comp
One for All Fiddle vs Fizz, going full MR
 

[squidgen]

Liandrys is one of the very few ways to get flat magic pen, so it's good for that, but you can get that by just sitting on haunting guise too.

[Putnam]

I know that I said I wouldn't come back here, but, like, this is actually sort of important?

Could you just, like, stop playing this game forever because playing it is supporting a company whose CEO deflects criticism by trying to doxx their rivals?

EDIT: since photoshop is possible

and also... "falsehoods"? that he took down the biggest dota forum and said "fuck you too" when called on not posting the archives for years after they were promised? Things that are easily googled?

[debvon]

How is any of that out of the ordinary? CEOs are human, all humans are scumfucks to varying degrees. You can't deny being this shitty at some point in time. I'm not defending him, he's garbage. But his character is separate from his product. Good luck punishing a scumfuck by trying to boycott his free to play game on an indie-dev forum

If you want results you have to make his shittiness public to a larger audience. Even then the most you'll get is a half-assed apology? maybe?

[Putnam]

You can't deny being this shitty at some point in time.

I actually can, since I've never tried to reveal the identity of a public figure with a known hostile audience.

How is any of that out of the ordinary?

Never seen quite such pettiness and hostility in AAA devs. Maybe some indie devs, which I guess Tryndamere thinks he still his.

But his character is separate from his product.

It's a bit difficult to say that when there's a champion named after him. Riot put their hearts and souls into the game, it's their baby, and I would really like to call CPS.

[debvon]

do it

[Frumple]

You can't deny being this shitty at some point in time.

I actually can, since I've never tried to reveal the identity of a public figure with a known hostile audience.

This is US election-cycle level stuff, right here. It's hard to "reveal" information that already exists. Plus the information was straight up wrong. Many things this was, doxxing it was not.

Though I guess that was all mentioned when you posted the exact same thing in the wtf thread, now that I notice it. Eh.

[frostshotgg]

You can't deny being this shitty at some point in time.

I actually can, since I've never tried to reveal the identity of a public figure with a known hostile audience.

Nope. A first name that was already a mostly open secret does not constitute revealing the identity. There's at least 7 digits of people with the name Abdul on the planet. Plus, League's audience really couldn't care less about Dota, or Icefrog.

Dota fans are the only ones who seek out the opportunity to trash talk or spew vitriol towards other games in the genre besides in passing when "which game do you like better" is brough up, usually by the same /r/dotamasterrace people who seek out confrontation in the first place.

We get it, you absolutely despise Riot. A lot of us in this thread don't much like them either. But coming into this thread just to flame over a over-exaggerated slight does nobody any good.

[squidgen]

And according to some people, Tryndamere is the most toxic champion in the game. Maybe it's trying to tell us something?