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[Yodamaster]

Anybody know some good paths for him now?  I'm thinking Wolves-Wraiths-Red for an early level 3 gank with red.

You can go Wolves-Blue-Wraiths-Red-Golems on Noc and gank mid or bot early all you want. I would advise getting the blue though because the ability to spam your Q dramatically speeds up your jungle.

Don't take my word for this though, I'm not a jungler.

I've decided to learn jungle Poppy because I really want to play Poppy more, but there's not much place for her anywhere. She's all-around mediocre in the jungle, but lategame you get to have a farmed poppy, and there are few things better than that.

Poppy can be a strong solo top, I've seen her played effectively in that role. And yes, she does carry lategame pretty hard .

Anyone knows any good Sivir builds?

Boots + 3 pots -> 1-3 Doran's Blades -> Bloodthirster -> Phantom Dancer -> Infinity Edge -> Bveil.

Basically your generic AD carry build. With other AD carries you might want to go IE -> PD though before you even consider BT. Last Whisper can be thrown in there if you need armor pen.

edit : Also, has anyone any experience playing Trundle in Dominion? I'm on the brink of getting enough IP for a new champion, but I'm starting to suspect I have enough tanky dps... but he seems like he could be really powerful. It's either that or the Jarman, I think.

I don't play Dominion, but Trundle is a solid jungle pick on Summoner's Rift, and I think that would translate well into Dominion. Jarvan is also strong enough to be competitive. However, I don't play either very often (I USED to main Trundle) and they aren't seen too much. Poppy is an extremely powerful Dominion pick.

[webadict]

Anybody know some good paths for him now?  I'm thinking Wolves-Wraiths-Red for an early level 3 gank with red.

You can go Wolves-Blue-Wraiths-Red-Golems on Noc and gank mid or bot early all you want. I would advise getting the blue though because the ability to spam your Q dramatically speeds up your jungle.

Don't take my word for this though, I'm not a jungler.

Yes. You need blue. Nocturne has low mana management, so requires blue if you want to be fast. Or at least that's what my brother yells at me while he's jungling/watching someone jungle. I'm more of a mid/bot.

[Pnx]

I'm wondering if I should just get Ziggs, he looks interesting.

[penguinofhonor]

I hate when you win mid and top and the jungle, but bot feeds 12 kills. That happened earlier today.

I also hate when you win top and the jungle and bot, but mid feeds 8 klls. That also happened earlier today.

And then there was this game where the enemy Ziggs got one kill on mid, one kill on me (jungle), and one kill on each of bot, then snowballed hard off those. That wasn't anyone's fault specifically. I don't hate those kind of games quite as much.

[Yodamaster]

I'm wondering if I should just get Ziggs, he looks interesting.

I haven't played him but he's a strong pick and supposedly quite fun, too.

[Pnx]

I bought Ziggs, now I am about to play a game with him, maybe I should buy all the yordles and exclusively play them from now on.


EDIT: Well that was fun, the ultimate was extremely powerful, but works best if you're closer so you can land it better. I did manage to wipe out three people from another lane though.

[webadict]

I bought Ziggs, now I am about to play a game with him, maybe I should buy all the yordles and exclusively play them from now on.


EDIT: Well that was fun, the ultimate was extremely powerful, but works best if you're closer so you can land it better. I did manage to wipe out three people from another lane though.

From what I can tell, he's really strong, and he basically has a delayed burst GP ult.

[FluffyToast J]

I've heard his ult compared to Pantheons. Similar timings from distance, and all that. Apparently if you can land Pantheon's ult, you're good to go.

[umiman]

Why all this speculating? Let's do some theorycrafting!

Ziggs:
Ziggs is, while entertaining, actually a very simple character. He has 4 AoE damage skills and is a burst caster. That's about it. Off the bat, we know he has good range just under Xerath (which is kind of annoying) and his cooldowns are a bit ridiculous (18 seconds? 16 seconds?). But he's a burst caster, so honestly all we care about is the 1 second damage potential.

Keep in mind... Ziggs is actually the only mage in this game with 4 AoE spells (and with the exception of Shyvana's Dragon Form, the only champion period). What this means for the analysis is that really, there's no real existing champion to compare him with. His damage potential will be a lot higher than others. I'll elaborate more on this after the analysis.

Passive: Short Fuse
(Innate): Every 12 seconds, Ziggs' next basic attack deals 13 + (7 × level) (+0.35 per ability power) bonus magic damage. This cooldown is reduced by 4 seconds whenever Ziggs uses an ability.

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He basically gets this once every 12 seconds in lane (about 2 - 3 last hits) and about twice every teamfight. His range is 575, which is pretty goddamn high. So chances are he can easily hit you with them. A pretty good passive. Basically like fighting a very irritating Caitlyn. The damage itself is about equal to Lux's passive, except without the need to hit anyone with anything. More fuel for "Lux made even more redundant!!!!" *cough cough cough*

Q: Bouncing Bomb
Cost: 60 / 70 / 80 / 90 / 100 mana
Cooldown: 6 / 5.5 / 5 / 4.5 / 4 seconds
Magic Damage: 75 / 120 / 165 / 210 / 255 (+0.65 per ability power)

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This skill, damage-wise, is remarkably similar to Annie's Disintegrate, except AoE. Here...

Cost: 60 / 70 / 80 / 90 / 100 mana

Magic Damage: 85 / 125 / 165 / 205 / 245 (+0.7 per ability power)

Except Annie's is fixed at 4 seconds. Annie's range is 625. This one is 850, the same as Xerath. From what I've seen, it's pretty hard to miss this but we all know Annie's Q isn't the most amazing thing in the world. It's a staple spell. A lot of caster Qs are like this. They're merely there to be an "always up, so I don't feel completely useless" skill.

W: Satchel Charge
Cooldown: 30 / 27 / 24 / 21 / 18 seconds
Magic Damage: 70 / 105 / 140 / 175 / 210 (+0.35 per ability power)

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1000 range. That's the same as Xerath's Mage Chains when he's in siege mode. So yeah, pretty far. Damage.... kinda meh. Scales really badly too. It's a knockup though. Don't think any mages of knockups so far. Delayed too, so he could really piss off some people... like say... Fiddles. The cooldown is pretty ridiculous though. 30 at level 1? And you don't max this till last? Oh god... better hope you don't need to use this to escape. Hell, even at 18 seconds I don't think you'd have the chance to.

E: Hexplosive Minefield
Cooldown: 16 seconds
Cost: 80 / 90 / 100 / 110 / 120 mana
Magic Damage from First Mine: 40 / 65 / 90 / 115 / 140 (+0.3 per ability power)
Magic Damage from Additional Mines: 20 / 32.5 / 45 / 57.5 / 70 (+0.15 per ability power)
Slow: 20 / 25 / 30 / 35 / 40 %

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Oh ho.. now we're getting somewhere. This skill tells me this is where a good chuck of his damage will come from. The AoE is fairly big, and I know if you land it right (not hard), people have to blow up somewhere around 7 of them to get out (pray you're not Cho'Gath). That's what? 500 damage or so. Pretty good scaling too. That's a big amount of damage for just a regular skill. A pity about the cooldown though...

R: Mega Inferno Bomb
Cooldown: 120 / 105 / 90 seconds
Primary Magic Damage: 250 / 375 / 500 (+0.9 per ability power)
Secondary Area Magic Damage: 187.5 / 281.25 / 375 (+0.675 per ability power)

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This is actually really hard to place. On one hand, getting hit by the primary damage is... wow... ouch. It'd be the same as getting hit by a really powerful Tibbers. But if you get hit in the secondary area then well. It's kinda meh. Especially for an ultimate. The cooldown is 90 seconds, not too bad for a big ultimate. But yeah, you're going to want to hit that bullseye.

Conclusions:

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- Alright, we've seen that his damage is mostly okay-ish. Not bad, not incredible by any means. He's got decent range but no stun (big deal for a burst caster). But remember the AoE thing? This means that in the right situation... at the right time, this guy could easily put the hurt on an entire team if they're not careful. Got a Galio on your team? Then this is the guy you want. Because even though his damage is okay-ish... They can all x5, which becomes pretty crazy if you think about it.
- His cooldowns are really, REALLY long. That W especially. 30 seconds at level 1 is crazy and there's no way you're maxing that first. That's also his only CC spell and it's a puny, unreliable knockup. If a jungler or laner can force him to use this early, he's basically screwed. CC is extremely important for a burst mage. Can you imagine if Annie or Xerath didn't have stuns? If a caster doesn't have good CC, he'd better have something else going for him. Looks like Ziggs traded it in for his 4 AoE skills.
- Everything else seems kinda standard. His base stats are slightly better than the average mage but he has lower mana regen (probably won't be a problem considering his cooldowns). His movespeed is also pretty low at 305.

Tl;dr: Ziggs is a standard burst caster that has amazing damage potential if he can actually hit more than one person with his skills, long range, and ridiculously long cooldowns. Kill him in lane by forcing him to use his W. No reliable stun either means if you reach him, he's probably dead. Course... Sivir has no reliable stun either so it *sounds* way easier than it probably is.

[Errol]

So, about Ziggs AP ratios: Highly damn variable. Anyway, my assumptions based on what he can unload in one gank attempt/teamfight:

2x Short Fuse: 0.7 AP, pretty reliable. Single target
2x Bouncing Bomb: 1.4 AP, not entirely certain. Small AoE
1x Satchel Charge: 0.35 AP, but also doubles as his escape mech. AoE
3x Hexplosive Mine: 0.6 AP, room for improvement, definitely more in teamfights. AoE
1x MIB: 0.9 AP, pretty certain on close range, but not 100% sure. AoE

Sums up to 2.95 damage per point in ability power, but that's really damn variable. Hexplosive Minefield can really lay on the pain in some situations, Bouncing Bomb is tricky to aim if you want it to bounce, you might not hit MIB dead center and you might not want to use Satchel Charge for damage.

Cassiopeia's combo AP ratio is 3.0 by the way, but that is actually assuming around 2.5 seconds of time - RQWEE. (Ziggs calculation assumes around 4.5 seconds) Cass is second to none in sustaining her damage (in terms of casters), one QEE already has a 2.0 AP ratio. So over 4.5 seconds of perfect accuracy you get 5 points of damage out of one point of AP.

Yeah her ratios are crazy.

[Sirian]

That's also his only CC spell and it's a puny, unreliable knockup.

Arent you forgetting the slow from the minefield ?

[Errol]

Usually one fails to consider slows But as a 40% slow it definitely has its moments. Just doesn't interrupt anything.

Satchel Charge is his only hard CC.

[Graven]

I dunno about SR, but for what it's worth he's one of the best AP casters for top in dominion - Ziggs alone can stall the initial windmill fight with his ball-busting area denial and gets even better later on for defending points and stalling captures. Also since MR is rarely bought in Dominion he does really good damage and I've seen a lot of squishies instagibbed by his combo. Also his ult leaves very little time to dodge and since flash isn't as prevalent as in SR it's almost impossible to dodge in shorter ranges.

[Werdna]

Could someone point me to a guide to lanes, or summarize in simple terms "who goes where" (ideally)?  Something similar to the "Laning Basics" link in Umiman's 2nd thread post, but for all the lanes. 

[ansontan2000]

Could someone point me to a guide to lanes, or summarize in simple terms "who goes where" (ideally)?  Something similar to the "Laning Basics" link in Umiman's 2nd thread post, but for all the lanes.

Welcome to the League of Legends, summoner! In tomorrow's tutorial we will be showing you all the basics of laning. Stay tuned!

[I can teach you tomorrow, if you want.]