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[ECrownofFire]

I'd like to run a team of Shyvana, Singed, Amumu, Morde, Leona...

... Why?

[ansontan2000]

I'd like to run a team of Shyvana, Singed, Amumu, Morde, Leona...

... Why?

All tanks, really hard to kill.

[ECrownofFire]

I'd like to run a team of Shyvana, Singed, Amumu, Morde, Leona...

... Why?

All tanks, really hard to kill.

Yeah, and do no damage

[Shadowgandor]

Those are all carry tanks, which means they can actually do some damage ^^

[umiman]

Shadowgandor got it right.

All of them do absurd damage for their tankiness. Shyvana is well-fucking-known for obliterating entire teams by herself. So is Singed. And Morde. Just watch the recent Kings of Europe and IEM Kiev, they were all there. When Morde appeared he never even used his ult on the enemy carry. He used it on Rammus all the time and still killed everything.

They're equivalent to Doom Bringer and Dragon Knight from DotA. Tanky... and will kill your whole team.

[Knirisk]

The only problem is that while many of them have gap closers, none of them are ranged AD. You might have some trouble in bot/mid for much of the early game.

[Jopax]

Swap out one of those for the Burr Umi and you get another chain lightning, something that is scary as hell, like Ionic Spark and his ult, solo anything really

[Knirisk]

So, I've been playing Dominion with the new bots and...well... They don't check the bushes of the bottom tower. Ever.

I play Nidalee and spearthrow all day. I'ma try Xerath sometime soon. Should be humorous.

[penguinofhonor]

I think Ziggs needs some extra damage on his R at early ranks. I mean, Lux gets 300/400/500 base while Ziggs is stuck at 250/375/500. Especially considering the -25% damage on people who aren't near the center of the bomb. It just feels like those level 6 ults aren't hurting very much.

[webadict]

My game's broke.

[penguinofhonor]

My game's broke.

Do you have LoLReplay? That's been killing games all day.

[umiman]

The only problem is that while many of them have gap closers, none of them are ranged AD. You might have some trouble in bot/mid for much of the early game.

I don't even play ranged AD at bot. xD

Someone has never seen mah full armour page.

[debvon]

I think Ziggs needs some extra damage on his R at early ranks. I mean, Lux gets 300/400/500 base while Ziggs is stuck at 250/375/500. Especially considering the -25% damage on people who aren't near the center of the bomb. It just feels like those level 6 ults aren't hurting very much.

The reasoning behind that was probably the huge range. But really, his ult is more difficult to land at that far of a range anyway. Even on a fairly condensed team fight, if you're far enough away the enemies are not going to be in the same spot when it lands. Guess landing it on heads takes some getting used to. But in medium and close range.. hilarity.

[xDarkz]

LOL Replay has started crashing a lot of peoples games. It'll probably be safer to update it, and if all else fails, disable it until they find a total fix.

As for Ziggs, I believe he's sleeper OP. In one game, he just wrecked us. GP's ult in conjunction with his own, is just god awfully strong. He bounces around, messes up your position, and hits like a TRUCK when fed. Other games though, he's just a slight annoyance in teamfights, but nothing more.

I like his design though. A little atypical than the generic skillsets.

[umiman]

EU West got patched. Time to test dem bots! I'll update as I find anything funny.

Udyr bot's first item is Manamune...

No one playing Dominion bots...

Double AP Ryze Morgana bots lol... no support haha. Oh god, Trist bot running around with surge and jumping into towers oh boy! Morgana is actually kinda scary with her shield, it's perfect timing. Oh god, Trist tried to shoot me into her tower. Impressive!

Alright, I've seen enough. Nothing really much has been change. I'm actually pretty sure they're EASIER than before because they get less gold.

The new items however, are quite boss. The portable Soraka ultimate is 2225. That's damn cheap for how much it does. The new Starks (I refuse to call it that new name) is also really cheap, at 2145g. Considering the stats they give and what they build out of, I really can't see why any support wouldn't get them.