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[eerr]

Maybe people realized that Akali is OP piece of garbage, and don't wanna play an OP champ for easy wins? My fingers are crossed for that.

People really would want to play an OP champ for easy wins. Many people would.

Not if you have to die suicidally everytime.

It's less effective.

[Bluerobin]

Oh man, Deman's a B12er? Neat.

FoTM-itis has always fascinated me. Not just how easily swayed the masses are (that's only the top layer of it), but how long it sticks (often shorter periods of time for harder champs), how much it can sway the devs (this one always kind of surprises me...), and even how it can turn out to be a productive thing and cause people to find alternative useful builds or team comps. I kind of wish there was as much number-crunching that went on in the LoL community as there is in the WoW community, although I guess you'd need much more given the number of champs LoL has. On the other hand, I kind of like that it's nearly unfeasible so there'll always be a bit of wild west-ness to LoL.

[umiman]

Since when did Stark's Fervor's debuff affect minions? I'm pretty sure this wasn't there before.

[Bluerobin]

Huh. Didn't know it HAD the armor debuff aura until I looked it up just now...

Edit: also, everything I can find says enemy champions, so maybe bug? I've seen people say it also affects minions, but descriptions say champs.

[umiman]

Yeah. It's still a bit of a weird item though. I can't ever rationalize a champ getting it unless they're support. The stats don't make sense I don't think. Especially the 30 hp/10 part. It's a huge amount... but... c'mon... who the hell needs hp regen when you have 20% lifesteal?

But now that I know it works on minions... hrm... maybe we could force all our supports to buy it super early. I know it'd make it so that Sivir's Boomerang Blade alone can instagib the entire creep wave. Right now she needs to Q and then E.

[eerr]

?

Everybody needs 30 hp/5

Everybody.


You give that, and attack speed, to your entire team : O.

[Bluerobin]

Hahaha oh man. Funny you say that umi. Turns out they're remaking it. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/new-items-locket-iron-solari-and-remade-aura-items

[umiman]

Hah. Cool. I'm vindicated once more!


Edit: WAAAHAHAHAHA! IT DOESN'T GIVE HP REGEN ANY MORE! xD

[Cthulhu]

Emblem of valor is totally rad now.

[eerr]

Hah. Cool. I'm vindicated once more!


Edit: WAAAHAHAHAHA! IT DOESN'T GIVE HP REGEN ANY MORE! xD

I prefer the hp regen to the flat hp :/
You get that back in like, 40 seconds

but for your whole team!

[BurnedToast]

Hahaha oh man. Funny you say that umi. Turns out they're remaking it. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/new-items-locket-iron-solari-and-remade-aura-items

My "favorite" line from the description: "To combat this, we decided to rebuild Stark’s Fervor into an item that would be more beneficial to a champion who would typically purchase an aura item, such as a tank or support. Since these champions usually aren’t the ones you typically see racking up gold, however, an expensive component item like the Recurve Bow needed to be removed from the recipe. "

Once again they do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to discourage the completely terrible 0 cs support meta, in fact the opposite they just encourage it that much more.

On top of that, the new aura item with a shield? yeah, it's going to make arguably the most frustrating champion to lane against (soraka) even more annoying, now she has effectively 4 heals instead of 3 (main heal, ult, summoner heal, clicky shield).

Riot says they hate passive play, but they keep encouraging it... WHY?!

[eerr]

Hahaha oh man. Funny you say that umi. Turns out they're remaking it. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/new-items-locket-iron-solari-and-remade-aura-items

My "favorite" line from the description: "To combat this, we decided to rebuild Stark’s Fervor into an item that would be more beneficial to a champion who would typically purchase an aura item, such as a tank or support. Since these champions usually aren’t the ones you typically see racking up gold, however, an expensive component item like the Recurve Bow needed to be removed from the recipe. "

Once again they do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to discourage the completely terrible 0 cs support meta, in fact the opposite they just encourage it that much more.

On top of that, the new aura item with a shield? yeah, it's going to make arguably the most frustrating champion to lane against (soraka) even more annoying, now she has effectively 4 heals instead of 3 (main heal, ult, summoner heal, clicky shield).

Riot says they hate passive play, but they keep encouraging it... WHY?!

To encourage supports to farm.

[BurnedToast]

but they aren't encouraging supports to farm - they specifically said they were making it cheap because supports don't farm.

Second item does not specifically say it's cheap, but it's 'midrange' which means supports will buy it after they get their GP/5 items. it looks like it will be incredibly annoying, but not good enough to stop spoonfeeding your carry free gold for.

Edit: second item actually builds out of heart of gold, a GP/5 item many supports got even though it was not super great stats for them. how is that encouraging them to farm more?

[umiman]

I take offense to that. Even ignoring the fact that I personally enjoy occassionally playing no-farm support.

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I enjoy having established rules that work, even if they're not mandatory. It means that regardless of who you play with, or what you do, you can rely on an established convention. To give a metaphor, it's like me traveling the USA. Big country. Gigantic continent. Yet I know wherever I go, everyone operates by the same rules... even if these rules don't satisfy everyone. Even if it pisses me off that this gigantic country is culturally identical even if I travel across seven states. At least I know the rules. And there is merit to that.

Let's look at Dominion. When it was released. No one knew what the bloody fuck they were doing. Exciting... true... but if you want to win. Oh ho ho ho ho... Good luck. No one understands each other. No one knows what the fuck is going on. It's like travelling to every city only to have completely different rules, currencies, languages, every single time. It's fun maybe the first 5 times... then you know, you're going to get frustrated. Good luck if you have a business in Kiev and want to expand to Helsinki.

See, I don't have a problem with the current meta. Because I know how it works. I know why it works. I like to tweak the meta, change things around. Like a poet experimenting with meter and rhythm. It's why I run Jarman + Support bot. It's why I jungle Karthus or TF. It's why I'm not afraid to play with the convention. Rather, I enjoy it. I enjoy the rules because it allows me leeway to bend it. I don't see why you can't do that too.

After all, while the conventions exist because they work. There's no reason why you can't fiddle with it. Just because everyone adheres to convention. Just because people promote that convention. Doesn't mean you're not allowed to mess with it. Sure, people will probably hate on you for doing something bizzare. But if you truly have a good reason for doing unorthodox things then why should you fear? Because in a few moments, those naysayers will be going...

"OH MY GOD YOU GUYS ARE DYING TO MAOKAI MALPHITE BOT LOL!"

Edit: I'm getting a little worried that Sivir's getting *too* popular... I don't really want Riot to nerf one of my favorites...

Edit edit: Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckkk.... Sivir's getting nerfed... Sigh, knew it was too good to last. Oh well, they still haven't touched MF. She's still super strong. Can still drag her around. Too bad she's 6300ip.

[Jopax]

Damn it, EoV was my first thing (after boots) on Tyrinda, with it and a few potions I could pretty much spend the first 20 minutes either farming or roaming, and later I could either sell it if I needed a bunch of something (like damage, or damage, or crit chance, maybe damage) or alternatively turn it into Starks for that extra rage buildup, extra damage (seriously, with ARpen, BC and this you could shave off almost 100 armor off of someone) and ofcourse that nice lifesteal.

Now I have to think again when playing him, decide what to get.
I DO NOT LIKE THINKING WITH TRYNDAMERE RIOT WHY DO YOU MAKE ME THINK WITH HIM, WHYYYYY!?!?!??!