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[Niccolo]

I hope firebreath/randombreath/webs/fireballs/flows get merged to the point where they all work within a system that is understandable.  Dragonbreath being magic nuclear instadeath (unless you block it!) seems kinda crazy, and almost all the other attacks are messed up in one way or another.  It would be especially nice to make some forgotten beast silk socks for Urist to wear to the prom.

It would also be nice to have proms for urist to wear his nice silk socks to.

Make a pretty statue garden and burrow all of the children in there. One of them will eventually start a party.

[de5me7]

I hope firebreath/randombreath/webs/fireballs/flows get merged to the point where they all work within a system that is understandable.  Dragonbreath being magic nuclear instadeath (unless you block it!) seems kinda crazy, and almost all the other attacks are messed up in one way or another.  It would be especially nice to make some forgotten beast silk socks for Urist to wear to the prom.

It would also be nice to have proms for urist to wear his nice silk socks to.

Make a pretty statue garden and burrow all of the children in there. One of them will eventually start a party.

in confinement, and given enough time, it is dwarven nature to PARTY

[LoSboccacc]

I hope firebreath/randombreath/webs/fireballs/flows get merged to the point where they all work within a system that is understandable. that can be used from players in adventure mode and weaponized in fortress mode

 

[Niccolo]

I hope firebreath/randombreath/webs/fireballs/flows get merged to the point where they all work within a system that is understandable.  Dragonbreath being magic nuclear instadeath (unless you block it!) seems kinda crazy, and almost all the other attacks are messed up in one way or another.  It would be especially nice to make some forgotten beast silk socks for Urist to wear to the prom.

It would also be nice to have proms for urist to wear his nice silk socks to.

Make a pretty statue garden and burrow all of the children in there. One of them will eventually start a party.

in confinement, and given enough time, it is dwarven nature to PARTY

This can be written as a proper equation.

[NSQuote]

Those cities look really nice, well done, Toady! Can't wait for the enw update, it's going to be so good with all the enw features!

Anyways, some observations/ideas about cities:

- I don't really like the high ceilings. I know multiple floors aren't in yet, but when they are I'd prefer high ceilings to be reserved for temples, castles, and warehouses, rather than every shop. I always viewed Z-levels as "stories" and think it would be odd to have a single story shop with three stories of ceiling space.

- In larger cities, once markets are in prehaps we could see city squares. They could be the equivilent of statue gardens, raising the happiness of the city members and being a site for parties.

- Even after bins are finished, I think the shops should store most of their wares in the attic/basement/warehouses. They could keep their best wares on display, while minimizing clutter.

I'm sure a lot of this is planned, as cities won't be finished for a while.

[Untelligent]

I think I read someone mention in another thread (hell, maybe even this one a few pages back) that the high ceilings were historically accurate (something about putting as much airspace in the house as the resident could afford to keep it cooler, I think). He could've been wrong, I suppose. I don't mind the ceilings, though.

[mendonca]

Of course, that assumes you are in a climate where you need to think about cooling ... and the mediterranean people handled it in a very different way, by making things out of thick walls and having small windows.

Middle eastern architecture and town planning contains lots of 'passive stack' ventilation (basically chimneys), a decent subsitute for a high ceiling - and the markets are generally oriented north/south with a narrow central street to avoid direct sun in to the stalls.

I suspect (but don't know) that high ceilings were implemented generally by the wealthy merchant class when they had a bit of extra money to build more of a house, and waste materials on a large reservoir for hot air to gather whilst not sacrificing large windows (and daylight).

Not really sure about historical Scandinavian architecture, but I can't imagine that was overly concerned with keeping places cool, and more volume would just be more to heat - a waste of precious fuel for the common man (have you played unreal world?)

Bonus points to Toady if he gets the civilisations to build towns according to climate

[Lord Shonus]

Besides cooling, a high ceiling has an advantage when all your heating and lighting comes from burning something. Smoke from the fireplace goes up the chimney, but torches and candles make smoke too.

[The Grackle]

What I noticed that all the roofs are flat.  They should be slanted to keep off rain, and steeply slanted in any climate with snowfall.  Maybe have roofs made out of ramps instead of just floors.

But, y'know, those are just details.  In all, I'm really liking these new towns.  I'm curious to look at them with a visualizer like Stonesense or Overseer. 

[BishopX]

What I noticed that all the roofs are flat.  They should be slanted to keep off rain, and steeply slanted in any climate with snowfall.  Maybe have roofs made out of ramps instead of just floors.

But, y'know, those are just details.  In all, I'm really liking these new towns.  I'm curious to look at them with a visualizer like Stonesense or Overseer.

I don't think of the roofs are "flat" I just think that they're closer to flat than they are to whatever angle DF's ramps are (have we decided on the dimensions for 1 tile?).

[NSQuote]

Might as well ask Toady about it:

Are tall ceilings going to be the norm once multiple floored buildings make it in? Will it depend on the type of building (A kitchen using fires would have a high ceiling with chimneys for ventilation, the carpenter's shop might not)?

Also, will shop owners live on the floors above/below their shop, or will they have morning commute? Will they have workshops to create goods, or will the process be abstracted?

[PTTG??]

7 feet tall from floor to floor, 2.5 feet on each edge. +-1 foot for each tile.

[G-Flex]

7 feet tall from floor to floor, 2.5 feet on each edge. +-1 foot for each tile.

Tiles are definitely cubic. The geometry doesn't make sense otherwise.

[Quatch]

I believe toady has mentioned something around 2m^3, and asked us not to hold it to him.

[Rose]

They are clearly big enough for a hundred sleeping dragons.

but not more than a single standing gnome.