Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: [1] 2

Author Topic: Question about Dwarves Ethics.  (Read 6201 times)

PCpaste

  • Bay Watcher
  • This is how smithing works. (For dwarves at least)
    • View Profile
Question about Dwarves Ethics.
« on: April 18, 2011, 08:51:02 am »

I was thinking that i'm sick of not being able to take goblin heads in adventure mode, and not being able to make elf bone bolts in fortress mode.

So, I was going to tamper with the thoughts of the entire dwarven race to make it seem okay.

I'm making it acceptable to eat intellegint beings.

And make trophies out of them.

Will that allow me to make elf bolts and goblin leather mittens?

EDIT: Also, will other nations go to war with dwarves simply for these changes?
Logged
Dwarf Fortress: The only game where an Artificial Intelligence-controlled unit can pull the pants off someone and the proceed to beat said someone to death with said pants.

Dutchling

  • Bay Watcher
  • Ridin' with Biden
    • View Profile
Re: Question about Dwarves Ethics.
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 09:14:19 am »

1. Yes you will be able to do that to other intelligent creatures but you can never use Dwarves as material (hardcoded)
2. No, I think you will have a higher chance to have peace with goblins and elves because your ethics are more or less the same. humans might not like your preferences though
Logged

Ipwnurmom221

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Question about Dwarves Ethics.
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 09:23:05 am »

Where in the raws is this magic?
Logged
"I haven't seen my parents in nearly a year, I can't move a foot in any direction, I spend all my days being attacked by animals, and I've been forced to drink sheep puke- wow that's a nice floor grate!"

Oliolli

  • Bay Watcher
  • [PREFSTRING:unlikeability]
    • View Profile
Re: Question about Dwarves Ethics.
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 09:35:59 am »

But you can never use Dwarves as material (hardcoded)

Wrong. One word: Fell
Logged

Quote from: Girlinhat
When all you've got is an adjustable spanner and an entire freight warehouse of terrifying cogs and gears, everything looks like "just a prototype".
Quote from: ThatAussieGuy
You all turned Swordthunders into a bastion of madness that seems to warp in on itself under its own hatred of sanity.  I'm so happy!
Quote from: Loud Whispers
drowning babies everywhere o-o

expwnent

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Question about Dwarves Ethics.
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 11:04:34 am »

Leather statues? Are you serious?
Logged

Necro910

  • Bay Watcher
  • Legendary Drunk +5
    • View Profile
Re: Question about Dwarves Ethics.
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2011, 11:08:12 am »

Leather statues? Are you serious?
Hell yeah!  ;D

Dwarves are great at making objects out of impractical goods!

Oliolli

  • Bay Watcher
  • [PREFSTRING:unlikeability]
    • View Profile
Re: Question about Dwarves Ethics.
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2011, 11:20:31 am »

Leather statues? Are you serious?
Hell yeah!  ;D

Dwarves are great at making objects out of impractical goods!

Or impractical objects out of goods.

"This is a mango wood bed. All craftsdwarfship is of the highest quality. It is adorned with spikes of emerald."
Logged

Quote from: Girlinhat
When all you've got is an adjustable spanner and an entire freight warehouse of terrifying cogs and gears, everything looks like "just a prototype".
Quote from: ThatAussieGuy
You all turned Swordthunders into a bastion of madness that seems to warp in on itself under its own hatred of sanity.  I'm so happy!
Quote from: Loud Whispers
drowning babies everywhere o-o

Necro910

  • Bay Watcher
  • Legendary Drunk +5
    • View Profile
Re: Question about Dwarves Ethics.
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2011, 11:23:34 am »

Leather statues? Are you serious?
Hell yeah!  ;D

Dwarves are great at making objects out of impractical goods!

Or impractical objects out of goods.

"This is a mango wood bed. All craftsdwarfship is of the highest quality. It is adorned with spikes of emerald."
"This is a charcoal bed. All craftdwarfship is of the highest quality. It is adorned with spikes of !!raw adamantine!!."
Wouldn't that be comfy?  :P

Jeoshua

  • Bay Watcher
  • God help me, I think I may be addicted to modding.
    • View Profile
Re: Question about Dwarves Ethics.
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2011, 11:28:08 am »

A quick rundown:


Most of the ethics didn't list don't matter in Fortress or Adventurer mode.  If your ethics are vastly different from another race, tho, that will create wars.

For example, I usually make the Civs that CAN lie have:

[ETHIC:LYING:MISGUIDED] rather than UNTHINKABLE.  That way they don't get into too many fights over "truthfullness"
Logged
I like fortresses because they are still underground.

Necro910

  • Bay Watcher
  • Legendary Drunk +5
    • View Profile
Re: Question about Dwarves Ethics.
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2011, 11:46:47 am »

A quick rundown:


Most of the ethics didn't list don't matter in Fortress or Adventurer mode.  If your ethics are vastly different from another race, tho, that will create wars.

For example, I usually make the Civs that CAN lie have:

[ETHIC:LYING:MISGUIDED] rather than UNTHINKABLE.  That way they don't get into too many fights over "truthfullness"
Kobold: Suuuuuuure, we won't take all off your things  ::)

Dwarf: YOU SICK LYING BASTARD! YOU MUST DIE!

CapnUrist

  • Bay Watcher
  • Sure, it's safe to drink!
    • View Profile
Re: Question about Dwarves Ethics.
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2011, 12:38:45 pm »

A quick rundown:


Most of the ethics didn't list don't matter in Fortress or Adventurer mode.  If your ethics are vastly different from another race, tho, that will create wars.

For example, I usually make the Civs that CAN lie have:

[ETHIC:LYING:MISGUIDED] rather than UNTHINKABLE.  That way they don't get into too many fights over "truthfullness"
Kobold: Suuuuuuure, we won't take all off your things  ::)

Dwarf: YOU SICK LYING BASTARD! YOU MUST DIE!

I'm personally wondering why you're talking to kobolds at all. I usually just let the groundhog bone bolts do the talking.
Logged
"My doctor says I have a malformed public duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fiber [...] and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes."

PCpaste

  • Bay Watcher
  • This is how smithing works. (For dwarves at least)
    • View Profile
Re: Question about Dwarves Ethics.
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2011, 12:43:43 pm »

Oh, so just because he's a Kobold he's automatically going to steal your stuff?...

I suppose that you think that dwarves are all stupid, too.
Logged
Dwarf Fortress: The only game where an Artificial Intelligence-controlled unit can pull the pants off someone and the proceed to beat said someone to death with said pants.

Satarus

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Question about Dwarves Ethics.
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2011, 12:45:12 pm »

The Kobold would just bark out some nonesence before your militia or guard dogs killed it.
Logged
Quote
You need to make said elf leather into the most amazing work of art.  Embed it with every kind of gem you have, stud it with metals, and sew images into it.  Erect a shrine outside your fort with that in the center.  Let the elves know that you view their very skin as naught more but a medium for your dwarves to work on.

Mister Always

  • Bay Watcher
  • SQUARE-GO LIKE
    • View Profile
Re: Question about Dwarves Ethics.
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2011, 02:47:04 pm »

I sense speciesism and prejudice against kobolds.

Kobold Liberation And Acceptance Front, GO!

*Mister Always kicks Satarus in the head, bruising the muscle, shattering the skull and jamming the skull through the brain!*
Logged
"""The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit." - W. Somerset Maugham" -Forumite" -Mister Always
Pages: [1] 2