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Author Topic: What piece of adamantine armor to make first?  (Read 7850 times)

Orkel

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Re: What piece of adamantine armor to make first?
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2011, 09:24:34 am »

I generally go in this order for any armors.

mail shirt
helmet
greaves
high boots
gauntlets
breastplate
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Re: What piece of adamantine armor to make first?
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2011, 09:32:09 am »

I think currently the game really does lack armor for piercing weapons - surely well knit silk armor should do the trick shouldn't it? It has more  tensile strength than steel .
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Re: What piece of adamantine armor to make first?
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2011, 09:50:40 am »

Mail shirts, then helms, then greaves.

I think currently the game really does lack armor for piercing weapons - surely well knit silk armor should do the trick shouldn't it? It has more  tensile strength than steel .

This is true, but silk alone will not stop arrows (as they tend to be sharp and cut through). It does help to put it under heavier armor, such as chainmail or leather.
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Re: What piece of adamantine armor to make first?
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2011, 09:50:55 am »

I go like Orkel, except I like to get gauntlets in there a little higher because having adamantine gauntlets just seems like it's so cool.

Also, you don't have to mod mail shirts to go on with breastplates--you can actually have them wearing 3 mail shirts and 1 breastplate.
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Re: What piece of adamantine armor to make first?
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2011, 02:21:51 pm »

Smith bolts. Then have your marksdwarves practice with the bolts to seperate the bolts into stacks of one. Then melt the bolts at a smelter. Smith bolts. Rinse and repeat.
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Re: What piece of adamantine armor to make first?
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2011, 04:16:43 pm »

Axes. Or, if you're like me, greataxes and 2h swords. Because your dwarves are probably running around nude anyway.

 And besides, you don't need armor if your enemy is missing a few extremities by the time they notice you.
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Re: What piece of adamantine armor to make first?
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2011, 04:57:26 pm »

Go for the mail shirt like I said, put that over some type of SILK (or if you have way too much addy on hand, addy works, I think.) dress. A cloth dress will not work. Put another mail shirt under that(Doesn't need to be addy. Steel is fine for the second one.) and you are pretty much set for body shots. After that, Helmet is a must, and stick a silk hat under that. Same thing with greaves, then get gauntlets. Oh god, get guantlets before boots.
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Re: What piece of adamantine armor to make first?
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2011, 05:02:45 pm »

Mail shirts, then helms, then greaves.

I think currently the game really does lack armor for piercing weapons - surely well knit silk armor should do the trick shouldn't it? It has more  tensile strength than steel .

This is true, but silk alone will not stop arrows (as they tend to be sharp and cut through). It does help to put it under heavier armor, such as chainmail or leather.

Why not? Silk is stronger than kevlar and kevlar stops projectiles flying far faster, if the particular projectile is also cutting then a chainmail+silk combo should reliably stop most projectiles . But fine if not silk why not adamantine? Adamantine in terms of it's tensile strength can probably compared to a carbon nanotube, surely it can stop arrows and bolts .

I am basically advocating creating special uniforms for marksmen that is particularly resilient against counter-shots and I think that marksmen in plate mail is a little absurd. Basically, it would really make a reason for us to go and brave the dangers of the caves for silk instead of collecting it just because it's valuable.
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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2011, 05:08:12 pm »

Go for the mail shirt like I said, put that over some type of SILK (or if you have way too much addy on hand, addy works, I think.) dress. A cloth dress will not work. Put another mail shirt under that(Doesn't need to be addy. Steel is fine for the second one.) and you are pretty much set for body shots. After that, Helmet is a must, and stick a silk hat under that. Same thing with greaves, then get gauntlets. Oh god, get guantlets before boots.

I don't think silk currently provides any form of piercing protection.
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Re: What piece of adamantine armor to make first?
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2011, 05:35:06 pm »

I think that marksmen in plate mail is a little absurd.

For a crossbow? Not really since it doesn't get in the way of reloading and firing all that much. For a bow? Then yes. In all practicality, crossbowmen were expected to take part in the melee portion of the fight when the lines closed with each other, and were suitable equipped with the armaments to do such a thing.
You're probably thinking of a full set of plate, in my view, it's probably more of a fuller covering cuirass than the stuff you see in the hundred years war.
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Re: What piece of adamantine armor to make first?
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2011, 05:42:27 pm »

I think that marksmen in plate mail is a little absurd.

For a crossbow? Not really since it doesn't get in the way of reloading and firing all that much. For a bow? Then yes. In all practicality, crossbowmen were expected to take part in the melee portion of the fight when the lines closed with each other, and were suitable equipped with the armaments to do such a thing.
You're probably thinking of a full set of plate, in my view, it's probably more of a fuller covering cuirass than the stuff you see in the hundred years war.

True full suits of platemail were fairly rare, so the most you'd likely see even on pikemen and such would be a simple cuirass composed of front and back plates joined by leather straps, and possibly a helmet, with leather or padded linen underneath.
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Re: What piece of adamantine armor to make first?
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2011, 06:24:08 pm »

I've been disappointed with adamantine honestly. Salt demon attacks go RIGHT THROUGH high quality adamantine breastplates with no problem :P

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Re: What piece of adamantine armor to make first?
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2011, 06:30:37 pm »

That's probably the "demon" bit talking. Or hitting, in this case. Maybe even brutally savaging.
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Re: What piece of adamantine armor to make first?
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2011, 06:34:31 pm »

And these were legendary soldiers. Did I also forgot they were wearing exceptional leather cloaks and steel mail shirts ?

Also demon bite attack chewing up right through an exceptional adamantine helm and one-hit-killing an legendary axe lord  >:(

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Re: What piece of adamantine armor to make first?
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2011, 06:53:37 pm »

I think that marksmen in plate mail is a little absurd.

For a crossbow? Not really since it doesn't get in the way of reloading and firing all that much. For a bow? Then yes. In all practicality, crossbowmen were expected to take part in the melee portion of the fight when the lines closed with each other, and were suitable equipped with the armaments to do such a thing.
You're probably thinking of a full set of plate, in my view, it's probably more of a fuller covering cuirass than the stuff you see in the hundred years war.
Alright sure - the cuirass can be useful against broadheads but I think for bolts silk would be the material of choice.
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