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[breadbocks]

I'm SE. Played enough games that I could drop BM and never look back, but still learning enough that a BM would still be beneficial.

[Zrk2]

Unvote.

Wouldn't that be more reason to determine if we're scum and NOT less, Zrk2?

Defensive much, Pandar?

Zrk2, Who here would you be the most wary of trying to scumhunt?

Pandar or Mr. Person, both are among the better players on the forum, and I do not know several of the others playing in this game. Therefore if I were scum I would see them as the biggest threat.

You didn't answer the question. I did not ask who you think would be biggest threat to you as scum, I asked which person here you think you would have the most issues scum hunting if that person was scum.

Ah, I misunderstood then, the person I would be most wary of trying to scumhunt would probably be the same, as everyone else is either new, or unknown to me. Mr. Person usually puts on a decent enough scumhunt, and I don't remember off the top of my head any games I have been in where Pandar was scum.

3rd parties are almost always scum. Your question is invalid.

Please, elucidate. This seems defensive and evasive, why can't you provide an answer while pointing out the 'flaws' in the question?

Probably Mafia, barring the possibility of a Cult. They biggest threat is the enemy achieving a majority.

Brilliant deduction is brilliant. Bravo.

What do you mean by made suspicious by someone before their disappearance ?

Good question. By "made suspicious by someone," I mean that a player made a strong accusation against another player that revealed a hole in their logic, to which the second player responded by not posting in the game's thread for a long period of time, if not for the rest of the game.

Wouldn't that tunnel you into attacking only lurkers ? If someone is dodging question's this way won't it be better to concentrate on someone else in the meantime ?

Shouldn't one instead call them out on dodging questions and provide a list of the questions they have dodged? Make it obvious to everyone that they are dodging, and draw more attention down on them?

Pandar, why are you being evasive? How would you choose who you would kill as a SK?

[Jack A T]

You and darvi are asking about roles a bit much don't you think, jackery?

...One question about what you would do with a role is not "a bit much".  It's a common RVS question: find out more about the opinions of other people to improve reads.  You've given information that will help me read you.  Essentially, I want to know how you think.

Jack:  Would you rather be town, mafia, or third party?

Mafia or any third party, just because I haven't played either much (or at all, in the latter case), and I feel like trying something new.

SaintDraze: Newbies, though often not amazing players, are hard to use meta against, and have that to their advantage as scum.  They have their advantages.

[Org]

Vote Count
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Darvi-Mr.Person
[1]Jack AT-breadbocks

• breadbocks-
[2]Bdthemag-Tyberix, Ottofar

• Tyberix-
[1]Pandarscenic-Zrk2
[1]Zrk2-Heliman

• Native Foreigner-
[1]Toaster-Pandarsenic
[1]Mr.Person-Toaster

• Ottofar-
[0]Jokerman-

• Heliman-
[1]SaintDraze-Jack A T

Not Voting:bdthemag, NativeForeigner, Jokerman, SaintDraze

Eight votes to hammer. Deadline 3/31 6:00 PM EST.

From now on, I will ignore anyone's vote who does not

unvote target, vote new target.

I did not include votes that started before the game.

Jokerman has not posted in the last 24 hours, he will be prodded.

[Pandarsenic]

Tripe

In order:

No

Because a bad question would produce a bad answer

Yes, it is brilliant. Jesters rarely end the game in a game of this nature, and SKs never win at anything on Bay12.

Mu

I would try to shoot people who have kills - the mafia and possible Vigilantes.

[Heliman]

Wouldn't that tunnel you into attacking only lurkers? If someone is dodging question's this way won't it be better to concentrate on someone else in the meantime ?

Shouldn't one instead call them out on dodging questions and provide a list of the questions they have dodged? Make it obvious to everyone that they are dodging, and draw more attention down on them?

I didn't say that lurking is a reason for attacking, I said it was a reason for suspicion. There's a considerable difference.

[Zrk2]

Tripe

In order:

No

Care to provide a reason? That is really all I need.

Because a bad question would produce a bad answer

But the point of the RVS is to provoke discussion, why not just point out the flaws and then answer regardless, and perhaps inquire as to why such a bad question would be worth asking?

Pandar, what sort of third parties do you expect to show up in this game?

Wouldn't that tunnel you into attacking only lurkers? If someone is dodging question's this way won't it be better to concentrate on someone else in the meantime ?

Shouldn't one instead call them out on dodging questions and provide a list of the questions they have dodged? Make it obvious to everyone that they are dodging, and draw more attention down on them?

I didn't say that lurking is a reason for attacking, I said it was a reason for suspicion. There's a considerable difference.

Ok, thanks. How do you choose who to question in the opening of a game? What do your usual questions consist of? What is worthy of your vote D1?

[Pandarsenic]

No, because the quote you linked is in no way defensive, and as such the question "Defensive, much?" should be answered with "No" because defensive is a totally inappropriate term for how I reacted. Do I have to treat you like a four-year-old?

When he provided an appropriate alternative to the question I answered it. It's like if I asked you "Zrk2, are you anti-town or pro-scum?" then voted you for not answering one of them.

Survivor is standard fare. Jester is a maybe. We haven't seen a Lyncher in a while so there might be one of those. SKs are common, cults are moderately common. All of which amounts to which third party ARE YOU, Zrk2? If you're not a third-party, why are you so heavily fixated on them?

[Toaster]

Heliman:

I didn't say that lurking is a reason for attacking, I said it was a reason for suspicion. There's a considerable difference.

What is that difference?  What do you think you should do with people who are merely suspicious?


Tyberix:  How would you determine when RVS is over and the real meat begins?

[Jokerman-EXE]

RVS IS OVER WHEN I SAY IT IS OVER

AND IT IS OVER

RIGHT










NOW

I'm glad we decided to leave me alone for RVS, but I got bored of waiting and Org wants me to post. So someone ask me something.

[Bdthemag]

RVS IS OVER WHEN I SAY IT IS OVER

AND IT IS OVER

RIGHT










NOW

I'm glad we decided to leave me alone for RVS, but I got bored of waiting and Org wants me to post. So someone ask me something.

Jokerman how do you think the first night is going to go?

[Jokerman-EXE]

Excellently.

Next question.

[Jack A T]

Jokerman: What do you think of the points Zrk2 and Pandar are making against eachother?  Why?

[Heliman]

Ok, thanks. How do you choose who to question in the opening of a game?

I ask whatever comes to me, really.

What do your usual questions consist of?

I don't have any usual questions yet, as this is only my second game. I have no real style set up yet. What do yours normally consist of?

What is worthy of your vote D1?

I call them as I see them, I have no set criteria.

What is that difference?

Doesn't it go without saying? Do you think that typing names in blue is no different than typing names in red? Attack= attack, Suspicious=Attack later if he accumulates enough suspicion, an amount which is entirely a judgment call on my part.

I'm glad we decided to leave me alone for RVS, but I got bored of waiting and Org wants me to post. So someone ask me something.

Unvote Zrk2, Vote Jokerman
Mister Jokerman, how do I gwow up to be big and stwong just like you?

[Jokerman-EXE]

Jokerman: What do you think of the points Zrk2 and Pandar are making against eachother?  Why?

I think they're bullshit. Why? Because I didn't read them.

Mister Jokerman, how do I gwow up to be big and stwong just like you?

You grow a pair of fucking balls, eat a big hearty bowl of gasoline and glass for breakfast, you split rocks with your hands for an hour every morning, and you stop being a pussy little shit.

NEXT QUESTION.