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Author Topic: Beginners' Mafia XXII [0/6, 1/3], POSTGAME: Mafia Won!  (Read 73493 times)

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Re: Beginners' Mafia XXII [0/6, 1/3], POSTGAME: Mafia Won!
« Reply #495 on: April 24, 2011, 09:10:20 pm »

*reads final post of game*.

*head explodes*.

Bleh. Damnit.
I told you man. I TOLD you about scum!
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Re: Beginners' Mafia XXII [0/6, 1/3], POSTGAME: Mafia Won!
« Reply #496 on: April 24, 2011, 10:50:46 pm »

Haha wow, great game
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Re: Beginners' Mafia XXII [0/6, 1/3], POSTGAME: Mafia Won!
« Reply #497 on: April 24, 2011, 11:14:01 pm »

*reads final post of game*.

*head explodes*.

Bleh. Damnit.
I told you man. I TOLD you about scum!
*Rereads the post over and over again*
IT KEEPS HAPPENING
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Re: Beginners' Mafia XXII [0/6, 1/3], POSTGAME: Mafia Won!
« Reply #498 on: April 25, 2011, 12:31:33 am »

I KNEW one of the ICs had to be scum. And that the killing pattern made no sense. Goddamn migraines.

LNCP was even telling me to scumhunt Wuba yesterday! D:<
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Re: Beginners' Mafia XXII [0/6, 1/3], POSTGAME: Mafia Won!
« Reply #499 on: April 25, 2011, 12:37:07 am »

I KNEW one of the ICs had to be scum.

Well, no, actually >_>  Wuba wasn't even an IC.
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Re: Beginners' Mafia XXII [0/6, 1/3], POSTGAME: Mafia Won!
« Reply #500 on: April 25, 2011, 12:40:23 am »

Yeah, none of the ICs started as scum.

And that is exactly the sort of logic I've warned against. You can't make assumptions like that.
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Re: Beginners' Mafia XXII [0/6, 1/3], POSTGAME: Mafia Won!
« Reply #501 on: April 25, 2011, 03:05:41 am »

Players:
Heliman, Town
Orangebottle, Town
Breadbocks, Secret Agent (Mafia)
CrownofFire, Town
Simmura McCrea, Town
major_sephiroth, Town

ICs:
Jim Groovester, Town
Toaster, Town
webadict, Secret Agent (Mafia)

Ssssssuuuuuuurrrreeeeeeee.
Wuba wasn't an IC at aaaallllllllll.
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Re: Beginners' Mafia XXII [0/6, 1/3], POSTGAME: Mafia Won!
« Reply #502 on: April 25, 2011, 03:11:02 am »

He was arguably one of the board's very best players in a noob game. I'd say he was an IC regardless of official classification.

However, that doesn't change the fact that "one IC must be scum" is not a valid assumption. Reading into the NKs is also dangerous, so the mere fact that he didn't die wasn't really proof positive either. Especially since killing the other two didn't shut them up all the way, which would presumably be the point.
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Re: Beginners' Mafia XXII [0/6, 1/3], POSTGAME: Mafia Won!
« Reply #503 on: April 25, 2011, 04:29:17 am »

I laughed as I read this.
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Re: Beginners' Mafia XXII [0/6, 1/3], POSTGAME: Mafia Won!
« Reply #504 on: April 25, 2011, 07:40:54 am »

I have to ask: Both webadict and OB called me female. Where did you guys get that from?
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Re: Beginners' Mafia XXII [0/6, 1/3], POSTGAME: Mafia Won!
« Reply #505 on: April 25, 2011, 09:04:17 am »

RAEG!!! I didn't want to lurk my way to victory!!! I kept getting lots of things thrown in my face, and pushing Mafia time off.

:( Now I feel like this win wasn't deserved.

I have to ask: Both webadict and OB called me female. Where did you guys get that from?
LNCP yelled at me that you were a girl. I was like, "Really?" And then shifted. Blame LNCP for that one, since I always assume everyone's a guy unless they say otherwise.

I just really wish I could have posted more. But with that sudden interruption, that was mostly out of the question. But from what I posted, how well did I do, and how could I improve? (That's to everyone who thinks they have some input, by the way.)
I wrote some stuff in scumchat about what I was doing and it did involve using you as bait for Orange. Read that for more on my thought process.

But yeah, what Jim said. If you wanted me lynched, you needed to go offensive fast. It wasn't about countering me, it was about getting OrangeBottle to stop tunneling you. The shield thing WASN'T what you wanted. I had had that started since partway through Day 2 to protect me at lylo. I was always going to kill him to make me look scummy, for the WIFOM.

He was arguably one of the board's very best players in a noob game. I'd say he was an IC regardless of official classification.

However, that doesn't change the fact that "one IC must be scum" is not a valid assumption. Reading into the NKs is also dangerous, so the mere fact that he didn't die wasn't really proof positive either. Especially since killing the other two didn't shut them up all the way, which would presumably be the point.
I'm gonna have to disagree with the not reading into the NKs, but don't focus on doing it. I killed the way I did because I was trying to look like a newbie the whole game, then pin the blame on myself. The fact that a newbie would NEVER EVER do this should have crossed someone's mind.

However, you shouldn't make an argument out of the NKs, since that will fail. You should simply use it as mental stretching, to think about what that person's state of mind is. "He killed webadict because he wanted to get him out of the game, or because he knew there was no doctor, or because he knew the doctor wouldn't protect him. Narrowing that down and looking at the previous Day, webadict was looking scummy to other people, so the Doctor's protection would like not save him, but he wasn't likely to get lynched, so he was at least a viable threat." I don't know why people try to look at who was suspicious of who when they died, since I kill based on likelihood of me looking like scum but not actually getting lynched, since the person that you least suspect is always suspicious and the person you most suspect is going to get lynched. So, the key is to always be middle suspicious, since no one actually suspects you.
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Re: Beginners' Mafia XXII [0/6, 1/3], POSTGAME: Mafia Won!
« Reply #506 on: April 25, 2011, 09:13:22 am »

LNCP yelled at me that you were a girl.

I didn't, actually. When I saw you using "she" I was just as shocked as you were. :I
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Re: Beginners' Mafia XXII [0/6, 1/3], POSTGAME: Mafia Won!
« Reply #507 on: April 25, 2011, 09:17:00 am »

LNCP yelled at me that you were a girl.

I didn't, actually. When I saw you using "she" I was just as shocked as you were. :I
Hmm... I didn't mean to type she... I must've read she from somewhere else. I dunno.
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Re: Beginners' Mafia XXII [0/6, 1/3], POSTGAME: Mafia Won!
« Reply #508 on: April 25, 2011, 12:12:19 pm »

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...You do realise D3 is over, roight?

And Simmura's a she? :I

Got it, Heliman nightkill it is. I'd have liked you to be more high-profile but eh, kinda late now.

From scumchat. :V
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Re: Beginners' Mafia XXII [0/6, 1/3], POSTGAME: Mafia Won!
« Reply #509 on: April 25, 2011, 12:56:45 pm »

I think the point was that web replaced in. So there were no IC scum to begin with.
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