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[Nadaka]

Yeah, and I have too a simple formula to make a superconductor at ambient temperature.
Do you want my unified force theory, too? 

Hey, seriously we only have strong hint, because the reproducibility on this situation is a unsolvable problem, but enough to consider it as the most likely scenario.

He only asked for evidence, not proof.

At this point there is a fairly huge amount of evidence for global warming enhanced by human activity and the consequences it is likely to have.

[Il Palazzo]

Akham's razor, man.

It's Arkham, man. Arkham Asylum.

[Urist is dead tome]

Akham's razor, man.

It's Arkham, man. Arkham Asylum.

Fan of Batman, eh?

[Phmcw]

A more likely scenario is that the earth does this occasionally. Akham's razor, man.

Dude seriously? The UN have an huge team of the most brilliants scientists working on the field with an huge funding and you think you know what is more likely. Simulations showed the effect, and if our takes on the models is right, then it will happen, and has happened already. There is no direct correlation between temperature and CO2 levels, but given the dynamic of the system that was to be expected.


And the natural course of events mean nothing now, the human have an huge impact on the ecosystems (we are in the middle of a mass extinction of species) and has released carbon that was in the ground for millions of years. The climate will change, there is no question on that. The only question is how and when.

[Taricus]

You also have to remember that we are ALSO taking the earths ability to process CO².

[Urist is dead tome]

Dude seriously? The UN have an huge team of the most brilliants scientists working on the field with an huge funding and you think you know what is more likely.

Joke's on you! I don't eve know what the UN is. Check and mate.

[Phmcw]

Dude seriously? The UN have an huge team of the most brilliants scientists working on the field with an huge funding and you think you know what is more likely.

Joke's on you! I don't eve know what the UN is. Check and mate.

Oo Yes, check and mate, indeed. But it's cool, I know what to quote next time you post your usuals opinions anywhere.

[Urist is dead tome]

Oo Yes, check and mate, indeed. But it's cool, I know what to quote next time you post your usuals opinions anywhere.

No! Please don't! I obviously care!

[Urist is dead tome]

To follow up on my previous point.

Oo Yes, check and mate, indeed. But it's cool, I know what to quote next time you post your usuals opinions anywhere.

Really? Use a joke to eliminate future arguments? Go right ahead with that, man.

[Phmcw]

Sorry, it was uncalled for ; well it's the united nations. Please, inform yourself before arguing.

[Urist is dead tome]

Sorry, it was uncalled for ; well it's the united nations. Please, inform yourself before arguing.

'Course I know what the UN is. Aren't many people who don't.

[Nikov]

Anyway. The IPCC's climate models are flawed, as they assume as temperature rises, surface radiation into space will fall. It is, in fact, rising. Meanwhile opposition to the IPCC has grown in the climatology field and many, many eminent scientists dispute them.

[Phmcw]

Anyway. The IPCC's climate models are flawed, as they assume as temperature rises, surface radiation into space will fall. It is, in fact, rising. Meanwhile opposition to the IPCC has grown in the climatology field and many, many eminent scientists dispute them.

Well yes and no. IPCC's model are discussed, but the fact that human activity cause a large part of global warming is gathering a pretty large consensus, now. Of course, you may not know that, or you may not know the scope of the phenomenon, but every single scientific theory is widely contested. That don't make their finding uninteresting.

[Nikov]

Oh I know that. I also know by the IPCC's estimates in order to prevent the predicted amount of global warming the world would have to shut down all carbon dioxide emissions for eighty years out of the next century. I also know that they knew that. It's in the released e-mails at www.climate-gate.org. I also know they've practically been committing fraud, as they have been deceiving the public at large to keep their research grants coming in, so no, I don't trust the IPCC.

Speaking of which, here's a TL;DR version of those emails.

[PTTG??]

Yes, the fact of the matter is, in the realm of climate change, there are two groups: the first is the totality of relevant scientists, whom agree that it exists and is caused by humans.
On the other side, a group of industrialists and demagogues, and a few "scientists" of irrelevant studies (i.e., economics and psychology, a few theologists, and other liberal arts studies that traditionally don't focus heavily on things relevant to the biology, chemistry, physics, climatology, geology, or history of climate change), whom state without evidence that it does not exist, that the climate has always been like this, and the north pole is supposed to be an ocean, and that God will come down from heaven and magically transmute the ocean to be less acidic.

And if you're going to argue that the entire educated world is in on some kind of vast moneymaking conspiracy, you're going to have to explain how working for Greenpeace is going to earn them more money than working for, for instance, the Saudis.