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[ledgekindred]

A while back I read on the forums that if you picked 1 of each of a whole bunch of different kinds of foods, you'd wind up with "a lot" of barrels as each kind of food would get its own "stack" in the barrel.  Winding up with lots of barrels with a few stacks of single items.  It doesn't seem to make a difference if I pick 1 each of 200 different foods or 200 of a single food, I still wind up with around the same number of barrels as it would take to hold 200 foods.  Is this still a valid trick or am I wasting time selecting all these foods.  (Which I wind up doing each embark because invariably half the items on my embark profile are not available.)

[dakenho]

I have no idea what you are trying to, it would seem to me that you are trying to get the most amount of food into the least amount of barrels.  To my understand a barrel will hold 10 food items and can hold say 5 prepared plump helmets and 5 chicken eggs.   if the stack is over 10 the food item will be stored directly into the stock pile.  The only way I have found to save space is to have both items bellow and above 5.  a dwarven rum roast (200) and a plump helmet roast (9) can be stored in the same tile (one in a barrel and one top) and thus you can store 200+ meals with one barrel/tile.  to get this effect, find a several stacks of pump helmet that have 5 in a stack, brew them down to ale, then order your cook to turn the ale into meals.

[FuzzyZergling]

What he's trying to do is get the greatest amount of free barrels at embark.

I'm not sure if this still happens of not, sorry.
I usually don't bother with meat anyway, I just spend all my extra points on nice, cheap milk. 

[GotIt_00]

What he's trying to do is get the greatest amount of free barrels at embark.

I'm not sure if this still happens of not, sorry.
I usually don't bother with meat anyway, I just spend all my extra points on nice, cheap milk. 

Hey...milk. There's an idea. The barrel trick works for me in .18. The food types don't get mixed, so you can get a barrel per type. This milk idea is pretty clever though. That, along with buying sand for bags is some very economical embark buying.

[ledgekindred]

The barrel trick works for me in .18. The food types don't get mixed, so you can get a barrel per type.

Yes this.

Hrm.  It seems like they are getting mixed for me.  I'll have to do a couple new embarks and see if I can figure out what's going on.  Thanks.

[gtmattz]

It works with meats and fish too, the thing is that any items from one specific species will go into the same barrel, so say if you get one each pig meat, pig intestines, and pig eyeballs, all 3 will go into one barrel, but if you get one each of pig meat, cow meat, and goat meat, each gets its own barrel.

The easiest way to manage this is to hit 'n' for a new item, then type 'meat' and the list will be filtered to only show the meat of each animal, then buy one of each different animals meat (just the 2 point ones in this case, for the most bang for the buck).  You will end up with as many free barrels as species of meat you get.

[ledgekindred]

It works with meats and fish too, the thing is that any items from one specific species will go into the same barrel, so say if you get one each pig meat, pig intestines, and pig eyeballs, all 3 will go into one barrel, but if you get one each of pig meat, cow meat, and goat meat, each gets its own barrel.

The easiest way to manage this is to hit 'n' for a new item, then type 'meat' and the list will be filtered to only show the meat of each animal, then buy one of each different animals meat (just the 2 point ones in this case, for the most bang for the buck).  You will end up with as many free barrels as species of meat you get.

Ah, I'm betting this is the problem with the number of barrels I'm getting then.  I've been picking food based on being cheap rather than making sure I have all different animal-meats.  I'll have to re-do this with each one being a specific animal meat. 

[JmzLost]

What he's trying to do is get the greatest amount of free barrels at embark.

I'm not sure if this still happens of not, sorry.
I usually don't bother with meat anyway, I just spend all my extra points on nice, cheap milk. 

Hey...milk. There's an idea. The barrel trick works for me in .18. The food types don't get mixed, so you can get a barrel per type. This milk idea is pretty clever though. That, along with buying sand for bags is some very economical embark buying.

I, too, tend to buy milk first and meat second.  If I'm going to use a cheesy exploit, I might as well get some cheese

Milk -> Cheese
     +
Sand -> Large, Serrated Green Glass Discs
     =
free bags + free barrels + good meals + trade goods

JMZ

[tolkafox]

Also buy one of each milk, this helps to remove all milks from being cookable at the start of a game and each one is put into a barrel instead of a bucket.

[j0nas]

Just change the settings to give yourself more embark points and bring more barrels.  Jeez, it's a singleplayer game, it's okay to 'cheat'.

[Lord Darkstar]

j0nas, you don't understand what drives the min-max player types, do you? Maximizing the bang for the buck is what they are after.

Of course, with LARGE POTS made from stone getting used JUST LIKE BARRELS, it isn't nearly as big a deal as it used to be. As soon as you have stone and a craftshop, you can churn out several pots, and save your first wood for important things like beds and spiked wooden balls (for trading!).

[Sarudak]

Seriously who worries about barrels anymore now that we have cheap stone pots???