@lordnincompoop and Jim Groovester: My reasoning for voting Book was that he scumhunted a confirmed jester. Now, even he admitted that Org was a jester at the time. He also said he'd be happy to lynch the jester. All of this just screams that he doesn't want to scumhunt. That's a major scumtell right there.
If you mean investigation, I don't see how that's harmful in any way. He was investigating his role and discussing game mechanics, and I think that is quite an important aspect here.
This is a weak reason, and if that's all you have then it's a weak case as well.
Furthermore, Book did no actual scumhunting beyond talking with Org. That further implies he doesn't want to scumhunt. He only attacked me after I attacked him. I won't say OMGUS, but it was very reactive and passive. We all know passiveness is the way of the scum.
Reactive AND passive? What?
And you know damn well good scumplay isn't passiveness. It's suspicious, sure, but I'd say bad attacks are even more so.
If you still think my argument is crap, I'd at least appreciate it if you said WHY you think it's crap instead of just going "oh, he's scum because his argument is bad" and walking off. Thank you.
I'm doing so right now.
Yes, we really are best off ignoring him. Everything he says is WIFOM.
Now you're going around making all these predictions and assumptions. Do you really think we're dumb enough not to notice that stuff?
Nothing's preventing him from being productive (besides his role), and we shouldn't condemn him just because of his meta.
What we know is that Bayer received an alignment PM from Org that said Org was a jester. We also know Org has an ability to reveal his alignment to another player. We also know Org hasn't fought to defend himself at all. If you put all this together, Org's a confirmed jester. I can't even believe I had to explain this to you. But feel free to explain how Org is not a jester. He's bargaining to get himself lynched for fuck's sake, what more evidence do you want?
I never said Org was not a Jester. But there's a definite possibility he might become something else, or that there's a hidden mechanic in play. You're being oblique.
Again, if you have reason to suspect Org is converted, bring it forth. Like if a scum who sacs to convert dies or we kill a cult member or something like that, then yes, Org will be suspect #1. But until then, stick with the evidence we have in front of us that says Org is a jester, 100%.
That does not mean we should simply ignore him, or stop questioning him.
You're not hunting, you're just shitting here saying I'm scum. Where have you scumhunted? Ever? You've defended yourself from me and decided I was scum.
Have you done any scumhunting, for that matter? This piece here could just as easily apply to you. You're being too narrow.
Have you looked at anybody else? Nope.
Don't think you have, either. Start investigating other people; you're losing focus.
This was the same shit Book did, which makes me think you have a similar reason for wanting to know about the laws and don't care much about who's scum.
I don't think you do, either. You're not investigating anyone else, and your case is weak.
You're trying to acquire dubious information at the expense of scumhunting to get accurate, always useful information.
This is contradictory. In the same sentence, you say he's trying to get both unreliable and reliable information. Pick one.
Jim: Here are some quotes of you and Mr. Person doing nothing but picking at each other.
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I don't see how this is relevant.
Didn't Mr.Person stress confirmed? Like, in capitals? The word which Book used to describe Org's jestership status?
Stress confirmed?
Elaborate.
If you're annoyed that he didn't explain why voting the confirmed jester was scummy... well, you didn't really explain why him voting Book was scummy either. "Not much of a case" is a very vague accusation.
I'm pointing it out now, and if you look at my previous posts I'm pretty sure I did so there too.
Lich (sk; super-rare; 7+ players): You can kill a player each night. If you are killed, your soul will transfer to BUDDY1, and they will become a lich in your place. However, if they are already dead, your soul will be lost. Actions: kill
It's a ridiculously overpowered and swingy role.
Probs not in, then.
Why say this? He specifically said later in the post that he thought you weren't tunneling.
What?
Mr. Person and Jim Groovester have been tunneling each other.
Tunnelling is quite clearly mentioned, as you can see.
If you mean Mr.Person, then you're thinking of the wrong person, and I don't see that mention anywhere in his posts.
Darvi, are you going to scumhunt/be useful or what?
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