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Highest Irrelevant American Third-Party Result (Major Party Results Will Be Bullied)

Socialist
- 17 (33.3%)
Green
- 8 (15.7%)
Peace and Freedom
- 2 (3.9%)
Democratic
- 1 (2%)
Transhumanist
- 11 (21.6%)
Libertarian
- 8 (15.7%)
Republican
- 2 (3.9%)
Constitution
- 2 (3.9%)

Total Members Voted: 50


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« Reply #4620 on: July 25, 2016, 08:34:13 am »

Government Malfeasance: 4/5

Malevolent Global Conspiracies: 1.33/5

Control of Information: 4.67/5

Extraterrestrial Coverup: 1/5

Personal Wellbeing: 1.33/5

Overall: 2.47/5

Not sure why I'm above average. I don't believe in conspiracy theories. The only thing I believe in is people possibly harming or withholding information from others if they stand to profit from it. I'm not saying murder (at least not in general), I'm saying not telling about some negative effects. At least not in an obvious way.

Also, I don't say that it's impossible that some politicians may stage minor events that serve their agendas. Not necessarily in the most democratic countries, of course.

Aaand.... let's face it. Setting up guerilla/terrorist squads in an enemy country is definitely a valid tactic. No idea how this coincides with 'harming own citizens'...
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Re: Shit, let's be reviving the thread!
« Reply #4621 on: July 25, 2016, 08:43:12 am »

Government Malfeasance: 1/5

Global Conspiracies: 1/5

Information Control: 1/5

Extraterrestrial Coverup: 1/5

Personal Wellbeing: 1/5

That thing is so broad it's completely useless.  Like, seriously, that's not even.

It's very subjective.  It's probably a better insight into how you read the questions then anything.  Which is probably just a plot by them to make sure you dont see that it all goes to the very top.
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« Reply #4622 on: July 25, 2016, 08:53:40 am »

Government Malfeasance: 2/5

Global Conspiracies: 1.33/5

Information Control: 4/5

Extraterrestrial Coverup: 1/5

Personal Wellbeing: 1/5

I could probably get 1s across the board, or even higher numbers in some places I guess depending on how I interpret it. I think the issue is the word secret. Since many of these things are done, just not... You know. Secretly. It's not a secret that police (Part of the government) are murdering innocent civilians. It's not a secret that with enough money you can hire scientists to say whatever you want. It's not a secret that new technology is fought against by the people who profit off the old way and don't want to adapt. And... Those are the answers more or less that gave me this score. Is it a conspiracy if it's just... A fact of life out in the open? Perhaps I should have heavily disagreed with the questions based on the fact that they are not secret. Ah well.

I am interested in the people that got more then 1 in the Extraterrestrial place, honestly I could see anyone getting any score in any other category, but the aliumz one seems pretty blatant.
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« Reply #4623 on: July 25, 2016, 08:59:38 am »

Well, color me paranoid. :V

   Government malfeasance:   4.33/5    this facet reflects a belief that the government commits crimes on its own citizens.
   Extraterrestrial cover-up:    4.33/5   this facet reflects a belief that information about aliens is being concealed from the public.
   Malevolent global conspiracies: 4.33/5    this facet reflects a belief that governments and industry are controlled behind the scenes.
   Personal well-being:   4.67/5    this facet reflects a belief that individuals are currently being harmed by concealed dangers.
   Control of information:   4/5    this facet reflects a belief that science is manipulated.

Your overall score for conspiracist beliefs was 4.33/5.
The average score of college students is 2.22


Maybe if the government hadn't acted so shady all the time, things would be different. Plus, it probably doesn't help that I've witnessed a couple UFOs in my lifetime, childhood and adulthood alike, and no explanations and being labeled crazy because of it too (since childhood, that is). Heck, even my out-of-the-box thinking (*cough*critical thinking skills/imagination/being nice*cough*) was more-or-less discouraged at every corner from other kids to teachers alike, as if I were alien myself, so to speak. Not to mention belief in anything spiritual that science would have a hard time explaining, but faith would otherwise (like supernatural healing abilities, perception, and such) being immediately dismissed because "it doesn't make sense", but never any alternatives being given, nor open-mindedness to the alternatives via faith and such (if anything, I hear proud faith-bashing without shame anytime I mention such things, even if someone got the shit scared out of them by a ghost they "don't believe in").

Shit's happening, like a different kind of holy war or something, and something's gotta give somewhere down the line. I'm playing it safe and keeping my faith, just in case, let's say, what if a giant eye appears out of nowhere or something, and humanity gets called out on it's shit or something (Revelations is always kept in mind. Consider it destined to happen; scientifically to start, then followed up with the supernatural to catch everyone off-guard).

For what it's worth, it can at least explain why I made an easy target for bullying and the like since childhood as well, even when I was wise enough to keep my mouth shut. Believe in God, and you're nobody's friend. I mean, they can say they're your friend, but they'll definitely not back it up in any way when you would truly need one. I lost count how much I got my ass kicked, and nobody protected me when they promised they would. Some friends they were.

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*  Catches and cleans up as much confetti as he can get his hands on to craft a few glitter bombs.

Just in case... You know, I'm not the only delusional lunatic that somehow still believes he's sane.

EDIT EDIT:
I guess I can also attribute most of my rating to the fact that I'm a social pessimist, and generally assume even some of the kinder of folks have hidden malevolent agendas or something (Summary: Anyone and everyone is likely a dick, no exceptions; no offense). Being a target, since childhood, for unnecessary bullcrap can really change one's perspective for the worse.
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« Reply #4624 on: July 25, 2016, 09:03:44 am »

And there you have it, our first alien believer!

* Confetti rains from the ceiling, polluting your chakras with daemons of capitalist excess and closing your mind's eye.

(Half credit to maniac for being the first glassy-eyed sheeple slave)
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« Reply #4625 on: July 25, 2016, 09:08:55 am »

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« Reply #4626 on: July 25, 2016, 09:54:17 am »

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>:V SZIENCE, HOW COLD YE

:P it prob got so high because I don't exactly trust the pharmaceutical industry and the guvmint too much, though most of the sentiment is based off verified fact.
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« Reply #4627 on: July 25, 2016, 11:22:30 am »

I have a 4/5 on government witchcraft and twos on the rest.

Probably because I answered with my country in mind and there have been quite a lot of highly shady deals cut here. And do you say a yes or no to a small group secretly controlling the government if it's not a secret?
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« Reply #4628 on: July 25, 2016, 11:28:08 am »

Your overall score for conspiracist beliefs was 3.33/5.
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Not believing we've made first contact severely tanked my otherwise high score.

Government malfeasance: This facet reflects a belief that the government commits crimes on its own citizens. Your score was 4.67/5
This one's factually correct for most nations with security threats coming from its own citizens, for most nations with cold war legacies and most nations with advanced state security bureaus. Not really much you can do about it when conspiracy theories like mass surveillance get confirmed as completely true xD

Malevolent global conspiracies: This facet reflects a belief that governments and industry are controlled behind the scenes. Your score was 5/5.
They aren't controlled in public :P
Between lobby groups, advisory groups, consultancies, think tanks, transnational corporations, internationalist clubs and networks, lots of ways to gain relevance above a head of state - that's without even beginning to touch on supranational entities like the IMF or European Union. Most of the times it's just the way things are done, so as to avoid public outrage and opposition to unpopular policy. Few people for example want fracking done besides their home lol

Control of information: this facet reflects a belief that science is manipulated. Your score was 3.67/5.
Yeah another one where it is just factually correct to say this is true. People manipulate results in order to further their personal career, doesn't mean they successfully get past peer review - but you do get things in trials where results were manipulated in order to justify research costs ;]
That's just fraud on the small scale, but on the national one, when the stakes are big people are enticed to abuse. Anti-global warming science that is funded by oil companies are an obvious case, there was an amusing historical one where one scientist tried to defeat the sleuth of science funded by can manufacturers that said lead cans had no health effect on people (despite all evidence to the contrary), GMO is our modern day punching bag, smoking was (I guess still is) one such ground, and I laughed my arse off when I read a scientific paper concluding the health effects of regular cocoa consumption, as funded by Nestle (a major producer of chocolate).

Extraterrestrial cover-up: this facet reflects a belief that information about aliens is being concealed from the public. Your score was 1/5.
Of the legit coverups, governments covering up experimental missiles and aircraft is more likely. Unless aliens is referring to illegal migrants lol

Personal well-being: This facet reflects a belief that individuals are currently being harmed by concealed dangers. Your score was 2.33/5.
I'm quite disappointed they didn't have questions regarding the usual classics, like lead, fluoridated water, xenoestrogens, pollutants, quite recently in Colorado USA they even had weed in their water. Hilarious!
As it stands the only one of these questions I really rated highly was the question on mysterious groups whose agenda involves the spreading of disease. Having seen the ebola death cults, it's safe to say the earth is worsened by their nurgletic touch, and I dare not cross their potent path before their shelf life perishes. Even afterwards, I shall avoid their corpses like the plague, for it may very well be! XD

I have a 4/5 on government witchcraft and twos on the rest.
Probably because I answered with my country in mind and there have been quite a lot of highly shady deals cut here. And do you say a yes or no to a small group secretly controlling the government if it's not a secret?
I'd say open secret still counts, since they're not trying to be transparent

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« Reply #4629 on: July 25, 2016, 01:54:47 pm »

Government malfeasance: There are a few documented cases of this, but it's uncommon. Japanese internment, NSA surveillance, etc. 2/5.    

Extraterrestrial cover-up: It's pretty obvious that this is not happening. 1/5.

Malevolent global conspiracies: Probably not a thing, because otherwise governments would be more organized/stable. 1/5.

Personal well-being: See NSA surveillance. But overall, there isn't a lot of evidence for this. 2/5.

Control of information: There are some things where this is perfectly fine - nuclear weapons development, etc. However, between biased scientists and attention-grabbing media networks, there are some fields where knowledge is significantly (often accidentally! or done for fame/attention by unscrupulous scientists) misreported. 3.67/5.

"Your overall score for conspiracist beliefs was 1.93/5. The average score of college students is 2.22 (Brotherton, 2013)."

Edit: I find it odd that I agree with basically all of LW's points but my score is a lot lower.
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« Reply #4630 on: July 26, 2016, 12:42:33 am »

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Government malfeasance: 1/5
Extraterrestrial cover-up: 1/5
Malevolent global conspiracies: 1/5
Personal well-being: 1/5
Control of information: 3.67/5

Your overall score for conspiracist beliefs was 1.53/5. The average score of college students is 2.22

There were some loosely-worded bits in Control of Information; though they help new stuff too, subsidies and tax breaks can incentivize older and more-established technology rather than new ones, and the way research institutions are set up tends to encourage publishing single instances of positive results in a sea of unpublished negatives or inconclusives, which I considered "research and technology is being suppressed."
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« Reply #4631 on: July 26, 2016, 01:33:15 am »

Government malfeasance 2.67 Don't know what I picked for this. Don't really care either.   
Malevolent Global Conspiracies 1 I wouldn't doubt there are some global shenanigans going on, but all the questions seemed to point more toward Illuminati type stuff which is a bit silly.
Control of Information 3.33 The mega-corps are out to get us! Put your science machines away lest they take you very life!
Extraterrestrial cover-up 1. I mean, I won't deny the existence of aliens because they'll fuck me up if they do show up. For now, however, I don't think they are mucking about.
Personal well-being 1.33 Again, not sure what I picked for this and I don't really care either.

Overall score: 1.87
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« Reply #4632 on: July 26, 2016, 01:48:03 am »

I like how the poll's a perfect 4/3/2/1/0
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« Reply #4633 on: July 26, 2016, 01:51:36 am »

Might wanna get your eyes checked.
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« Reply #4634 on: July 26, 2016, 01:58:36 am »

Government malfeasance: this facet reflects a belief that the government commits crimes on its own citizens. Your score was 4/5.    
Extraterrestrial cover-up: this facet reflects a belief that information about aliens is being concealed from the public. Your score was 1/5.
Malevolent global conspiracies: this facet reflects a belief that governments and industry are controlled behind the scenes. Your score was 3.33/5.    
Personal well-being: this facet reflects a belief that individuals are currently being harmed by concealed dangers. Your score was 2.67/5.
Control of information: this facet reflects a belief that science is manipulated. Your score was 4.33/5.

Of course, their design doesn't really leave much room for nuance in regard to the scale, intensity, or nature of the various questions they ask. Take the bits about manipulation of scientific knowledge--provably true in the cases of things like the damage caused by smoking, levels of radiation people were exposed to in Cold War era nuclear tests, degree-holding climate change deniers on the bankroll of energy corporations, &c. But with this methodology that awareness is indistinguishable from someone who thinks that climate change is a hoax, the moon landing was faked, archaeological evidence of early human life is an atheist/Satanist conspiracy, &c.

I just went with mildly agree whenever I could think of a reasonably realistic example or two of the subject--if I'd disagreed with anything that didn't have constantly repeated incidents it would have been slanted just as far the other way. It's a shame, this could actually have produced interesting results if it were better designed. At best they're going to maybe be able to infer something about positive/negative outlook by demographic, if anyone actually gives them extra information.
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