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How do you feel about Apple (the company that makes iPhones, not any sort of fruit etc)?

I really like them and buy all their products.
I like them and think they're a good company.
I like them.
I don't care either way.
I do not particularly like them.
I dislike them.
I detest Apple and go out of my way to tell people how terrible their products are.
Undecided.
Other.
Don't care. / View poll.

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Re: Apple
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2011, 01:08:12 pm »

I like apples.
Windows has never, ever failed me. Seriously.
My iPhone hasn't ever failed me either.
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Re: Apple
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2011, 01:08:48 pm »

From my experience with apple proiducts, I occasionally have the displeasure of working with a mac. Now, the thing about macs is that it's advertised that it just works. Well, that kind of thinking makes software developers lazy, thus more prone to crashes from unexpected actions. For example, dragging a playlist between two separate panes. It works fine, but the panes don't update without restarting the program, and if you try to interact with where the playlist once was, the program locks up. Furthermore, the mac doesn't have any obvious way to deal with the frozen software, other than rebooting (With windows, after a certain timeout, the old window is replaced with a dummy that can be moved, resized, etc., and trying to close it gives an option to force it to close. Advanced users can go straight to the task manager, and end it from there. Really advanced users may opt to terminate the process directly, for an instantaneous close.)

Therefore, macs inspire a culturer of lazy programming and half-assed (when at all) handling of unexpected situations, bugs, crashes, freezes, and other unpleasant facts of software life.

With windows, there is a basic understanding that nothing is perfect, so it is a good idea to check pointers against null that should never be null, actually respond to error codes, validate basic user input thouroughly, and most importantly, have your program be the one to catch those errors, rather than the OS. Since, you know, someday someone may run your software on a mac, and then windows will not be around to cleanly deal with the problem, so all you are left with is mac, scratching it's head, and puzzling over that program that suddenly stopped working because of a heisenbug that was never noticed before, while the mac is completely unable to decide what to do, because it had never considered that it might be somehow, even remotely, flawed.
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Re: Apple
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2011, 01:11:16 pm »

So you're saying that the computer from Paranoia is a mac?


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Re: Apple
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2011, 01:11:58 pm »

I dislike apple's products, and I'd prefer to buy a different product - on no other basis that I don't like the way they look and the interface.

However, I do detest Steve Jobs.
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Re: Apple
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2011, 01:29:40 pm »

I don't see whats so hot about it.  I never had much of a use for any of their products either, so I can't really make a judgment about them other the the PR I see up front.  Pricing and fanboyism.  They turn me off.

So yea, I just list it as 'I don't care'.
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Re: Apple
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2011, 01:34:54 pm »

Yes, but for advocates, ceo, rich independant... they are perfect.
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Re: Apple
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2011, 01:37:04 pm »

You know what, instead of only bashing on Apple we could also suggest alternatives :D

...not that I know of any.
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Re: Apple
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2011, 01:51:09 pm »

I've never needed or wanted an Iphone, and I'm not particularly crazy about a huge digital library of music.

So there is virtually nothing Apple has been able to offer makes me care about them, other than the "Smart phone bonding" you get with people when you show them your new one.
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Re: Apple
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2011, 03:20:53 pm »

There is a term I am thinking of here, and I can't recall what it is right now, but it describes apple very well.

You know how with the newer ipods, you need you buy headphones from apple, because no other type of headphones work. And to put music on it you need apples itunes, as opposed to other devices that have plug and play. So basicaly once you go apple your locked into it... I hate that!

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Re: Apple
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2011, 03:28:34 pm »

Vendor lock-in?
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Re: Apple
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2011, 03:36:43 pm »

Is that true?
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Re: Apple
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2011, 03:39:19 pm »

Vendor lock-in?
Not what I was thinking of, but it will do.

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Re: Apple
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2011, 03:45:29 pm »

Is that true?
the i tunes part is (and isn't really too much of a problem apart from forcing people into downloading programs they'd otherwise didn't need. which kinda is pretty bad really). My iPod 3g doesn't have the headphone problem. Dunno about newer ones.
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Re: Apple
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2011, 03:46:41 pm »

Here is the question, a relative ask you an andvice for a pc/smartphone combo. Money is not a problem ,he's ceo , but he have no time to fight with it, and doesn't want to install anyhing. He must be able to do anything wih it even if you're not around (gaming is out of question). What do you advice?
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Re: Apple
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2011, 03:47:39 pm »

I don't advice anything because my advice is always crap.

Unless it's for the lulz. Then I advise tons of crap.
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