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Author Topic: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!  (Read 372404 times)

10ebbor10

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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!
« Reply #5056 on: June 25, 2014, 11:27:32 am »

http://online.wsj.com/articles/sunni-rebels-take-complete-control-of-iraqs-largest-oil-refinery-1403605510

Now Syria is intervening in Iraq.

Well, common enemy and all that. I wonder if the US intervening will now make it look like we are on the side of Syria? Ah, the joys of being a superpower and everything being a 3D chessboard :P
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!
« Reply #5057 on: June 26, 2014, 08:42:33 pm »

Obama seeks $500 million to fund moderate Syrian rebels.

Feels a couple of years late if anything. Trying to build up a third option to ISIS or Assad this late in the game seems damned near hopeless, but fingers crossed I'm wrong on that.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!
« Reply #5058 on: June 27, 2014, 03:31:36 am »

In 2012, when moderates were in the majority and defections from the Army were common, that might have tipped the balance and lead to a quick and relatively painless end of the civil war. Now it's just a drop on the hot stone.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!
« Reply #5059 on: June 27, 2014, 04:07:44 am »

Yeah, and as far as I know, he still don't want to give them stuff like MANPADS, giving Assad complete air superiority.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!
« Reply #5060 on: June 28, 2014, 01:40:52 pm »

Obama seeks $500 million to fund moderate Syrian rebels.

Feels a couple of years late if anything. Trying to build up a third option to ISIS or Assad this late in the game seems damned near hopeless, but fingers crossed I'm wrong on that.

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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!
« Reply #5061 on: June 28, 2014, 01:43:46 pm »

Yeah, and as far as I know, he still don't want to give them stuff like MANPADS, giving Assad complete air superiority.
Now I'm certain I'm not understanding something, because how the hell does stuffing your pants help against aircrafts?
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!
« Reply #5062 on: June 28, 2014, 02:08:05 pm »

Obama seeks $500 million to fund moderate Syrian rebels.

Feels a couple of years late if anything. Trying to build up a third option to ISIS or Assad this late in the game seems damned near hopeless, but fingers crossed I'm wrong on that.
I bet these weapons will end up in ISIS hands.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!
« Reply #5063 on: June 29, 2014, 05:27:49 pm »

Obama seeks $500 million to fund moderate Syrian rebels.

Feels a couple of years late if anything. Trying to build up a third option to ISIS or Assad this late in the game seems damned near hopeless, but fingers crossed I'm wrong on that.
Probably more to do with killing ISIS than actually doing anything in Syria. No American troops need set foot for as long as the rebels do the fighting.

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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!
« Reply #5064 on: June 30, 2014, 12:39:14 am »

Yeah, and as far as I know, he still don't want to give them stuff like MANPADS, giving Assad complete air superiority.
Now I'm certain I'm not understanding something, because how the hell does stuffing your pants help against aircrafts?
MANPADS are man-portable air-defense systems (Stinger missiles, etc). 
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!
« Reply #5066 on: June 30, 2014, 06:32:02 am »

So a Caliph walks the Earth once more? Spiffy. Also, their capital, Ar-Raqqah, was the capital of the Abbasing Caliphate from 796 to 809 under Harun al-Rashid. Even more spiffy.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2014, 06:36:20 am by Sheb »
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!
« Reply #5067 on: June 30, 2014, 06:51:53 am »

Sounds like fun.
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« Reply #5068 on: June 30, 2014, 06:57:15 am »

Would multiple Caliphs define a schism? Because I have a feeling that a good majority of Muslims won't accept an extremist caliph.

Though I'm equating a caliph as like a pope, from my understanding, except a heck of a lot weaker.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!
« Reply #5069 on: June 30, 2014, 06:58:04 am »

Don't the sunnis elect a caliph? I kinda doubt they're getting a majority vote any time soon.
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