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[Phmcw]

http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/3365.aspx

That is heartwarming, to say the least. I think that one reason why the majority of Muslims stay silent on Terrorism is that the feel as related to Al Quaida as you (urist) feel related to ,say, the lord's resistance army. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army . They are christian, yet you don't exactly feel related to them, and you don't need to apologize for theirs deeds.

[Virex]

http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/3365.aspx

That is heartwarming, to say the least. I think that one reason why the majority of Muslims stay silent on Terrorism is that the feel as related to Al Quaida as you (urist) feel related to ,say, the lord's resistance army. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army . They are christian, yet you don't exactly feel related to them, and you don't need to apologize for theirs deeds.

Difference is that the Lord's resistance army, unlike Al Quaida
a.) Hasn't blown up several thousands of people indiscriminately in the last few years alone.
b.) Isn't receiving massive funding from Christians and governments all over the globe.
c.) Is recognized as a terrorist organization by everyone but their members.
d.) Isn't backed politically and financially by a violent and oppressive ideology with equally violent and oppressive leaders.
e.) Doesn't strive to torture, enslave all women and massacre the biggest part of them for being "unclean".
f.) I'll reitterate, doesn't receive funding from many, if any Christian "charity" organizations.

[Digital Hellhound]

Actually, just skimming through that article shows that atleast points a), c), and e) are true for the LRA as well. Didn't read it fully, though, so don't know about the rest.

[Phmcw]

http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/3365.aspx

That is heartwarming, to say the least. I think that one reason why the majority of Muslims stay silent on Terrorism is that the feel as related to Al Quaida as you (urist) feel related to ,say, the lord's resistance army. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army . They are christian, yet you don't exactly feel related to them, and you don't need to apologize for theirs deeds.

Difference is that the Lord's resistance army, unlike Al Quaida
a.) Hasn't blown up several thousands of people indiscriminately in the last few years alone.
b.) Isn't receiving massive funding from Christians and governments all over the globe.
c.) Is recognized as a terrorist organization by everyone but their members.
d.) Isn't backed politically and financially by a violent and oppressive ideology with equally violent and oppressive leaders.
e.) Doesn't strive to torture, enslave all women and massacre the biggest part of them for being "unclean".
f.) I'll reitterate, doesn't receive funding from many, if any Christian "charity" organizations.

Lol, all point, from A to F are false.
a: Yes they have, just read the article
b: The only "government" to have sided with al Quaida are the Taliban. All the other dropped them once they attacked The US. They have links everywhere because they used to work for the US before going rogue, but almost every Muslims government side with the US. Most of those who don't have insolvable doctrine grudge with Al Quaida.
d: "Sudan's neighbor, Uganda, blames Khartoum for paying and harboring Ugandan rebel Joseph Kony, leader of the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA),". An insurgency of this size cannot survive alone .
e: Yes they do.
f: Nor are they. The "charity" organization where just frauds.

I'll reiterate : Al Quaida only have support form an tiny percentage of the most hardcore Islamists. And hardcore Islamist are a tiny percentage of Muslims.

[Alexhans]

What makes me mad about all this is the the Muslims have essentially attempted a holy war, or Jihad as it were, on Christianity. And the only difference is that they added another prophet to the list.

I'm sure you'd be offended if I generalized about Christians as you're doing with Muslims.

I didn't say all Muslims were anti Christian terrorists. I have nothing against Islam. I even have a few Muslim cousin (wonderful people) and when I referred to "the Muslims" I meant the Muslims in the terrorist group.

"What makes me mad about all this is the the Muslims have essentially attempted a holy war, or Jihad as it were, on Christianity."

Spoiler: "LOGICAL ARGUMENT, NOT OPINION ABOUT ANY RELIGION" (click to show/hide)

Ok, from now, on, when I refer to the christians It'll be about the pedophile christians. 

"What makes me mad about the Christians is that they are sick and like to rape children."

(Note for the logic impaired:  I'm not saying Christians are pedophiles.  But surely, there's some that are, same with other religions and non religions.  If I generally talk about them implying the worst specific I'm being false and offensive

Because I thought what I said would have been sufficient. I've been wrong before.

Only if you inmediatly pair up muslim with terrorist, which it seems you do.

I hope you might begin to understand why I thought (based on other threads) you were a troll, Urist.  It's not disagreement.  It's your lack of awareness when you're clearly offending other groups than your own despite being offended when your group is the one being attacked (on themes like politics, religion, whatever).

As I said to you in another post.  Before posting, hit preview and read to yourself what you've written. 

EDIT:  Ask your Muslim cousin to read your post.  Don't tell him it was you.  Note his reaction.

[Urist is dead tome]

Duly noted Alexhans!

[Virex]

What makes me mad about all this is the the Muslims have essentially attempted a holy war, or Jihad as it were, on Christianity. And the only difference is that they added another prophet to the list.

I'm sure you'd be offended if I generalized about Christians as you're doing with Muslims.

Perhaps he would, but I strongly believe that if a group is unwilling to separate itself sufficiently from extremist elements or is somehow unable to police itself, then that group should be under close surveillance at the very least. There's after all no way to make sure their excuses are not just a smokescreen to draw attention away from the support they are offering the extremist groups. I for one treat all members of the Catholic church as a possible danger to the wellbeing of children and will keep on viewing that way until the whole church as a group actively engages in the persecution of it's members. Currently, there is just no way to make sure someone isn't secretly fumbling at a young boys privates because those who can know it aren't speaking up against it.

I didn't say all Muslims were anti Christian terrorists. I have nothing against Islam. I even have a few Muslim cousin (wonderful people) and when I referred to "the Muslims" I meant the Muslims in the terrorist group.

"What makes me mad about all this is the the Muslims have essentially attempted a holy war, or Jihad as it were, on Christianity."

There have been multiple fatwas against Christians, Christianity, important elements in the western world and against everything we hold dear. In every single case, the Muslim community failed to reject the fatwa. That is telling me that they don't take the whole "respect other religion and cultures" concept they say is in the Quaran very seriously.

Spoiler: "LOGICAL ARGUMENT, NOT OPINION ABOUT ANY RELIGION" (click to show/hide)

Ok, from now, on, when I refer to the christians It'll be about the pedophile christians. 

"What makes me mad about the Christians is that they are sick and like to rape children."

(Note for the logic impaired:  I'm not saying Christians are pedophiles.  But surely, there's some that are, same with other religions and non religions.  If I generally talk about them implying the worst specific I'm being false and offensive

Sometimes the facts committed by a few are such atrocities that failing as a group to strongly speak against it and actively participate in tracking down the offenders makes the group just as guilty as the "extreme few".[/quote]

[Phmcw]

... logically, Virex, your reasoning is flawless, but factually, you're far from right.
The Muslim world fight against Al Quaida, and the Jihad-ism is used by government to oppress their citizen.
Don't have time to dig up citations now. But in he article I linked, the Egyptians have sided with the copes against their government. That really say something.