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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12210 on: March 13, 2015, 04:59:02 pm »

Water as in H2O as in the chemical water is a renewable resource, it passes through you without changing.

Water as in freshwater as in usable water is not renewable, at least not to the extent that California (and much of the world) is using it. Streams, lakes, and aquifers only recharge so fast, and a lot of places (California!) use it faster than the recharge rate.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12211 on: March 13, 2015, 05:13:56 pm »

the great lakes water can not be taken as it all belongs to the native tribes due to some old legal agreements they will never let it be transferred.
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« Reply #12212 on: March 13, 2015, 05:17:49 pm »

Just importing the water from elsewhere doesn't solve the cause behind WHY we're running out of water, which would be management practices and other stuff.

The drought doesn't help matters either anyway.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12213 on: March 13, 2015, 05:18:13 pm »

There are some lakes that cross the American-Canadian border though, right?

I think?
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12214 on: March 13, 2015, 05:19:01 pm »

the great lakes water can not be taken as it all belongs to the native tribes due to some old legal agreements they will never let it be transferred.

False. Every last drop could be taken as long as the governors of Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin agreed, unanimously. Absent that, you can't even bottle the stuff.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12215 on: March 13, 2015, 05:19:14 pm »

Just importing the water from elsewhere doesn't solve the cause behind WHY we're running out of water, which would be management practices and other stuff.

The drought doesn't help matters either anyway.

Canada has a lot of water, and global warming is predicted to increase precipitation in the coming decades. Importing Canadian water to keep the American West going is probably the least bad option.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12216 on: March 13, 2015, 05:20:27 pm »

Absent that, you can't even bottle the stuff.

I don't think you'd want to.  I was under the impression that a lot of those lakes are pretty polluted.   :P
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12217 on: March 13, 2015, 05:23:28 pm »

Absent that, you can't even bottle the stuff.

I don't think you'd want to.  I was under the impression that a lot of those lakes are pretty polluted.   :P
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12218 on: March 13, 2015, 05:24:11 pm »

Ah, good to know.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12219 on: March 13, 2015, 05:28:02 pm »

You can still set rivers on fire if you try hard enough, I fancy.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12220 on: March 13, 2015, 06:05:12 pm »

Well, if you really want to set "fire to a river", you can always dump potassium in there. Technically its the halides that are burning, but water is also involved in the reaction.

I for one fully endorse building nuclear fission plants all over the place to desalinate sea water.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12221 on: March 13, 2015, 06:08:08 pm »

I would endorse nuclear fusion plants instead.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12222 on: March 13, 2015, 06:22:51 pm »

If you truly want burning rivers, replace the atmosphere above it with fluorine gas.
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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12223 on: March 13, 2015, 06:25:07 pm »

I would endorse nuclear fusion plants instead.

The main difference being that fission is actually feasible.

Also, has about the same amount of risk.

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Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« Reply #12224 on: March 13, 2015, 06:26:25 pm »

But less resultant pollutants!
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