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[smeeprocket]

Yes, because saying "I can't talk about this because I'm white, only black people may speak of this and make decisions on its use..." isn't at all racist in and of itself.

There are so many things to be, and so many things thereof that are offensive. Let's not tiptoe about folks, it's demeaning and only makes the matter more pronounced and long lasting.

look, if a black person wants to use that word, that is their business. Because white people don't have to put up with the shit that comes with it. I do not get why white people are so obsessed with not being able to use that word.

No that does nothing to extend the problem. White people thinking it's unfair they they don't get to use a racial epithet also is part of the problem.

If your argument was "no one should use it" I'd back you up, but arguing that you should get to use it too... what are 5? You don't feel it's fair that you don't get to use a specific word, isn't the trade off for massive amounts of privilege enough?

[TD1]

If you meant to say "what are you, 5?" the answer is no. I am a grown person with an opinion, much like yourself, thank you very much.

Charging a word with so much negative energy (a word that black people themselves use on a regular basis) isn't a good idea, or so goes the skein of my thought.

[smeeprocket]

If you meant to say "what are you, 5?" the answer is no. I am a grown person an opinion, much like yourself, thank you very much.

Charging a word with so much negative energy (a word that black people themselves use on a regular basis) isn't a good idea, or so goes the skein of my thought

it's not being charged, it's been charged. It is past charged. You using it casually isn't going to uncharge it, it will just further increase the charge.

The "what are you, 5?" part is to something you just doubled down on. This white privilege filled cryfest about not being able to use a hate word because "black people get to use it, it's not FAIR!"

[Dutchling]

Could you guys please take the race shenanigans to some other thread? The current discussions can only lead to one thing, and nobody likes locked emotion threads.

[Arcvasti]

This is a silly conversationargument.

Spoiler: My two cents (click to show/hide)

I'd say that people should get to decide what they're called, if anything. If black people don't like being called n*****[Censored to spare Smee's{And potentially other's} feelings], don't. If intersex[I BELIEVE this is the generally agreed upon term?{If it isn't, I'm SURE Smee will corret me fairly quickly.}] people don't like being called hermaphrodite, don't. If people whose genitalia coincidentally match their biological gender don't like being called cisgendered, don't.

EDIT:

Could you guys please take the race shenanigans to some other thread? The current discussions can only lead to one thing, and nobody likes locked emotion threads.

^This. Or at least be less confrontational about it.

[TD1]

Obviously you think that my stance makes me sound rather immature, so it is pointless to argue with you smeeprocket. Try to remember the meaning of tolerance, though, because your condemnation doesn't seem to display much of it.

Nonetheless, the dwarfy one...out!

Ninja'd by the entirety of the Netherlands.
Edit: Then ninja'd by the Snake Alliance.

[smeeprocket]

I have no tolerance for white privilege. I apologize for that, or something.

[Mr. Strange]

Racism is in the meaning, not the word, anyway. I've yet to hear someone say Eskimo with racist intent. An inaccurate descriptive term isn't necessarily an instant racist term.

you mean like how the N word isn't racist if it just means a certain type of person and "white people can totally be n-s too!"

No, words can very much be racist, and the only people who get to decide if a word is offensive are the people they are referring to.

More like how black people can use it and no one thinks of it as racistic term, but if white people, say, someone who has grown in mainly black populated neighbourhood, uses it despite using it on exactly same meaning, it somehow becomes racistic?
I know for a fact that there are lot of black folk, both in and out of USA, who don't take offence because none is intended, just like I don't mind being called "snowflake" or some other term that could be considered racistic in some other context.

TL;DR: Intent and context deside if usage of words are racistic, not if someone is offended by them. Because no matter what you say there will allways be someone who finds it "offensive".

Ninja'd:

If a person says something perceived as racist, or in other words something which may be construed as you putting your race above that of another's, then it's not racist if you did not mean to make any comment on superiority. It was just insensitive.

So you are actually arguing that the N word is totally okay because there's always going to be offended by something?

No I am not, and you are intentionally misunderstanding what I said by saying that. I said that

Intent and context deside if usage of words are racistic, not if someone is offended by them

You trying to claim anything else is simply dishonest attempt to try dissmis my my argument for your own strawman. Whita/asian/arab/alien/whatever shouting "you nigger" to a black guy with the intent to insult is racist, same person saying the same thing to a black guy while hugging them after getting nice christmas present is not racistic. Insentitive? Might be, but not racist.

What is up with some white people and this competitive need to use the n word? You can use it when you deal with all the oppression and suffering that comes along with it, and even then only if the people you are referring to are okay with it.

You are the one who picked that word, it's used as an example exactly because people like you try ti limit it's use in non-racistic context, which would only make it less of an racistic term in the long run. Emotional and political charge of an word changes with it's use, and as long as people keep hushing it up as the "n-word" all the negative baggage will remain with it and it will keep having a racist usage. I'm sure there are lot of words that were used as racistic insults hundred years ago that would make people laugh today if someone tried to use them seriously, in non-ironic meaning as an insults, but no one would be offended by it, simply laughing.

Edit: Ninja'd by everyone!

[smeeprocket]

let's move this to the abusive policing thread, I think. It should accommodate it and it is (vaguely) related.

[Yoink]

Why do you need to try and get any thread locked pursuing this stupid argument anyway?
If certain people want to get offended over words, that's their problem and heated debate over it on the internet isn't gonna help them.

[Orange Wizard]

TL;DR - we should all stop communicating because some arsehole somewhere is going to be offended no matter what we say.

[Loud Whispers]

Lel identity politics

Aren't they just the best! For less, people have killed.

[Mr. Strange]

TL;DR - we should all stop communicating because some arsehole somewhere is going to be offended no matter what we say.

Hey! As an arsehole I take offence to any suggestion of communication by any other mean than farting. It's the only natural way.

[Xantalos]

You should communicate by eating each other.

[TD1]

Lel identity politics

Aren't they just the best! For less, people have killed.

Oh shut up you Bloody British bull dog.

I'll call ye what I want, and if you don't like it I'll do stuff to you that will make 1066 look like a trip to the park under the supervision of your mother.