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Re: Adventure Mode Little Questions Thread
« Reply #4035 on: October 10, 2016, 06:53:41 pm »

Is it possible to be kidnapped and converted by a night troll in adventure mode, and if not, is it a good idea to ask for that feature to be added, with you being able to play after being converted?
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Re: Adventure Mode Little Questions Thread
« Reply #4036 on: October 14, 2016, 02:27:38 pm »

Is it possible to be kidnapped and converted by a night troll in adventure mode, and if not, is it a good idea to ask for that feature to be added, with you being able to play after being converted?
I have heard that night trolls don't kidnap and convert after world-gen is over. might be incorrect. I don't think it should be possible to play after becoming a night troll, because you aren't the same person you were before you were turned, and you seen to be under the power of the night troll. if you can play after becoming a night troll, you should be able to play after a necromancer raises you. in both cases you're not really the original person, and you're under the thrall of someone else.
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Re: Adventure Mode Little Questions Thread
« Reply #4037 on: October 14, 2016, 02:49:26 pm »

You can't do either.

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Re: Adventure Mode Little Questions Thread
« Reply #4038 on: October 16, 2016, 02:10:33 am »

Has anyone had problems finding steel items in adventure mode? All of the fortresses I visit have iron armor and weapons, but no steel. This includes the capital of my dwarf's civ.
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Re: Adventure Mode Little Questions Thread
« Reply #4039 on: October 16, 2016, 06:32:12 am »

You'll never see steel either in the trade depot or warehouse level. That's just how the dorf entity generates items for those slots it seems.

You could add steel making to the human entity, which would cause steel items to populate meadhalls, tombs, and bandit camps. You would need to regen your world to get that tho.
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Re: Adventure Mode Little Questions Thread
« Reply #4040 on: October 16, 2016, 11:15:43 am »

Is it possible to be kidnapped and converted by a night troll in adventure mode, and if not, is it a good idea to ask for that feature to be added, with you being able to play after being converted?
I have heard that night trolls don't kidnap and convert after world-gen is over. might be incorrect. I don't think it should be possible to play after becoming a night troll, because you aren't the same person you were before you were turned, and you seen to be under the power of the night troll. if you can play after becoming a night troll, you should be able to play after a necromancer raises you. in both cases you're not really the original person, and you're under the thrall of someone else.
uhh necromancy makes a new unit...soul for the body, this is why you don't come back when they raise your body.
resurrection is basically want you want in the interaction department but.... it's tricky and needs someone willingly wanting to revive you.. also crash proned given you can't revive non historical creatures like nameless skeletons
night trolls seem to transform the person or well historically speaking given the family comments for Different races in the family tree dialog is paraphasing "complete utter shock and horror and not wanting to talk about it."
I haven't found a night troll lair yet to do proper science on their mates so it's up in the air.
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Re: Adventure Mode Little Questions Thread
« Reply #4041 on: October 16, 2016, 03:20:02 pm »

You'll never see steel either in the trade depot or warehouse level. That's just how the dorf entity generates items for those slots it seems.

You could add steel making to the human entity, which would cause steel items to populate meadhalls, tombs, and bandit camps. You would need to regen your world to get that tho.

That sucks. They managed to pump out some steel goblets for their tavern though. Damn dwarves.
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Re: Adventure Mode Little Questions Thread
« Reply #4042 on: October 17, 2016, 10:26:38 am »

You'll never see steel either in the trade depot or warehouse level. That's just how the dorf entity generates items for those slots it seems.

You could add steel making to the human entity, which would cause steel items to populate meadhalls, tombs, and bandit camps. You would need to regen your world to get that tho.

That sucks. They managed to pump out some steel goblets for their tavern though. Damn dwarves.

Maybe booze tastes better if the vessel is steel? But yeah. It's be nice if they did have some steel weapon/armor output. I don't really like trading them for their weapons. I always feel as if I'm swindling them.
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« Reply #4043 on: October 21, 2016, 08:43:55 am »

Is it possible to be kidnapped and converted by a night troll in adventure mode, and if not, is it a good idea to ask for that feature to be added, with you being able to play after being converted?
I have heard that night trolls don't kidnap and convert after world-gen is over. might be incorrect. I don't think it should be possible to play after becoming a night troll, because you aren't the same person you were before you were turned, and you seen to be under the power of the night troll. if you can play after becoming a night troll, you should be able to play after a necromancer raises you. in both cases you're not really the original person, and you're under the thrall of someone else.
uhh necromancy makes a new unit...soul for the body, this is why you don't come back when they raise your body.
resurrection is basically want you want in the interaction department but.... it's tricky and needs someone willingly wanting to revive you.. also crash proned given you can't revive non historical creatures like nameless skeletons
night trolls seem to transform the person or well historically speaking given the family comments for Different races in the family tree dialog is paraphasing "complete utter shock and horror and not wanting to talk about it."
I haven't found a night troll lair yet to do proper science on their mates so it's up in the air.

I'd say, being converted is more like being brainwashed, while necromancy uses magic to bring a corpse back to life, but its not the same person it used to be, it probally doesnt even have a soul
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« Reply #4044 on: October 25, 2016, 09:42:18 am »

There's a particular historical prisoner I'm looking for (found them in Legends Viewer) so I can rescue and maybe recruit her. They're allegedly located in a hamlet named Desertgroups, but the problem is I can't at all find her. Not in the mead hall (which only has one floor), not in any of the buildings. Not in the town immediately to the west, not in that town's sewers or dungeon.

So there's a town to the west, and hamlets (several of which are ruined) to the north, east, and south. Am I missing something? I feel like this prisoner should be located in one of the buildings I can see from the map, but I honestly am stumped here. Any suggestions?
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« Reply #4045 on: October 25, 2016, 12:10:01 pm »

So I've thumbed through a few reports on the bug tracker and it seems prisoners being taken to hamlets and disappearing is in fact a thing that happens. Well, that's quite disappointing.
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« Reply #4046 on: October 25, 2016, 08:39:59 pm »

Time for a different question, now. In the world I'm currently adventuring in, there's a human-turned-vampire-turned-night troll spouse. Is that normal? I honestly am not sure if it's worth reporting as a bug, but it is pretty weird.
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Re: Adventure Mode Little Questions Thread
« Reply #4047 on: October 25, 2016, 09:01:52 pm »

Time for a different question, now. In the world I'm currently adventuring in, there's a human-turned-vampire-turned-night troll spouse. Is that normal? I honestly am not sure if it's worth reporting as a bug, but it is pretty weird.
It's not a bug, just a very very rare occurrence. With all my legends-diving I've only seen it once.

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Re: Adventure Mode Little Questions Thread
« Reply #4048 on: October 26, 2016, 01:25:09 am »

Time for a different question, now. In the world I'm currently adventuring in, there's a human-turned-vampire-turned-night troll spouse. Is that normal? I honestly am not sure if it's worth reporting as a bug, but it is pretty weird.
How powerful is that entity?!
May I hear of the accounts of you dying to it?
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« Reply #4049 on: October 26, 2016, 02:05:21 pm »

How powerful is that entity?!
May I hear of the accounts of you dying to it?
Unfortunately, the adventurer in question accidentally (and I do mean accidentally) got into a scrap with a zombie giant dingo that trained most of his defenses to legendary. So even though this crooked crone vampire was incredibly fast (as in he was sometimes getting three hits for every one of mine), he didn't really do anything. Eventually I spilled his guts, cut them off, and watched him bleed out.

Interestingly enough, he used the vampire sprite (until he died, when he switched back to the regular night troll spouse color). According to legends viewer, he wasn't particularly skilled in combat, which is probably a good portion of why he wasn't that good. And it's worth noting that drinking his blood did not turn me into a vampire at all
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