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Author Topic: SanDiego's realistic tissue rebalance  (Read 26600 times)

Vherid

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Re: SanDiego's realistic tissue rebalance
« Reply #120 on: September 30, 2012, 09:46:13 am »

Awesome

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« Reply #121 on: September 30, 2012, 10:08:01 am »

Great work has my seal of approval of it means anything  :'( non the less great work needed more blood on my adventures
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Re: SanDiego's realistic tissue rebalance
« Reply #122 on: September 30, 2012, 10:13:55 am »

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6dgjboj8z62znqn/Gore%2B%20v1.rar

Compiled the new update with nihilist's brain stem project, and My/Hugo's neck and spine fixes. This is basically grim grimoire, but it doesn't have all the fingers included so I call this little package "gore+".

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Re: SanDiego's realistic tissue rebalance
« Reply #123 on: October 03, 2012, 08:59:36 pm »

I greatly approve of the name "Bitey Syndrome".

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Re: SanDiego's realistic tissue rebalance
« Reply #124 on: October 04, 2012, 08:06:02 pm »

Great work SanDiego! Thanks a lot for this.

May I suggest you take a look at this mod:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=116332.0

for integration with yours and also, do take a look at the ignite point of body parts, since as it currently stands skin, bone, hair and scale ignite all at the same temperature, and fat will melt before skin, so a person would burn from the inside out.
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Re: SanDiego's realistic tissue rebalance
« Reply #125 on: October 07, 2012, 06:55:30 am »

Thanks, I'll definitely go over that link once I have some more time :)
As for the burning problem - living tissues (except for plants, of course) really suck at burning. The reason is simple - they contain really lot of water (up to 80% in some). Most high-temperature injuries are caused by burning clothes (or by electric current). You need to reach really high temperatures to actually ignite those tissues - crematories operate at temperatures ranging from 880 to 980 degrees of celsius (1600-1800 in farenheit scale). That's a LOT of heat and you require prolonged exposure for the flesh to actually start burning. So, burns aren't result of act of burning, but rather tissue necrosis caused by intense heat. All other life threatening consquences are result of body reacting to the injury - swelling, shock etc. What would happen if you got hit by a short jet of flame this intese? Well, all your clothing and hair would catch fire. Your fat would really start melting. Then you would scream in agony, until you finally pass out due to fluid redistribution and loss and soon you would be a nice, smoldering corpse. But while you would be alive, your skin or other tissues won't burn.
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Re: SanDiego's realistic tissue rebalance
« Reply #126 on: October 07, 2012, 11:12:40 am »

Thanks, I'll definitely go over that link once I have some more time :)
As for the burning problem - living tissues (except for plants, of course) really suck at burning. The reason is simple - they contain really lot of water (up to 80% in some). Most high-temperature injuries are caused by burning clothes (or by electric current). You need to reach really high temperatures to actually ignite those tissues - crematories operate at temperatures ranging from 880 to 980 degrees of celsius (1600-1800 in farenheit scale). That's a LOT of heat and you require prolonged exposure for the flesh to actually start burning. So, burns aren't result of act of burning, but rather tissue necrosis caused by intense heat. All other life threatening consquences are result of body reacting to the injury - swelling, shock etc. What would happen if you got hit by a short jet of flame this intese? Well, all your clothing and hair would catch fire. Your fat would really start melting. Then you would scream in agony, until you finally pass out due to fluid redistribution and loss and soon you would be a nice, smoldering corpse. But while you would be alive, your skin or other tissues won't burn.

Such a comforting description lol
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« Reply #127 on: October 07, 2012, 12:42:18 pm »

Thanks, I'll definitely go over that link once I have some more time :)
As for the burning problem - living tissues (except for plants, of course) really suck at burning. The reason is simple - they contain really lot of water (up to 80% in some). Most high-temperature injuries are caused by burning clothes (or by electric current). You need to reach really high temperatures to actually ignite those tissues - crematories operate at temperatures ranging from 880 to 980 degrees of celsius (1600-1800 in farenheit scale). That's a LOT of heat and you require prolonged exposure for the flesh to actually start burning. So, burns aren't result of act of burning, but rather tissue necrosis caused by intense heat. All other life threatening consquences are result of body reacting to the injury - swelling, shock etc. What would happen if you got hit by a short jet of flame this intese? Well, all your clothing and hair would catch fire. Your fat would really start melting. Then you would scream in agony, until you finally pass out due to fluid redistribution and loss and soon you would be a nice, smoldering corpse. But while you would be alive, your skin or other tissues won't burn.
Thanks a lot for the information, SanDiego!
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Re: SanDiego's realistic tissue rebalance
« Reply #128 on: November 07, 2012, 11:03:54 pm »

awesome...  totally awesome!


In other news, are dragons supposed to have skin convering their throats?
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Re: SanDiego's realistic tissue rebalance
« Reply #129 on: November 10, 2012, 01:36:36 am »

Can't think of a better place to ask..

Is there a simple way to add extra... events... to this game? I.e possibility for creatures/dwarves to err.. defecate.. when in serious pain?

Perhaps have the resulting... splatter.. be a negative to dwarven moods.. (or a buff to some seriously weird magmafodders?)

I've no idea where to start with something like that, so a point in the right direction and i'll go off my own way.
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Re: SanDiego's realistic tissue rebalance
« Reply #130 on: November 10, 2012, 05:30:58 am »

Can't think of a better place to ask..

Is there a simple way to add extra... events... to this game? I.e possibility for creatures/dwarves to err.. defecate.. when in serious pain?

Perhaps have the resulting... splatter.. be a negative to dwarven moods.. (or a buff to some seriously weird magmafodders?)

I've no idea where to start with something like that, so a point in the right direction and i'll go off my own way.

I don't think there're any way to influence moods with mods and stuff. I'm sure there're something that could be done for fleeing, I know squid have ink sprays, http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Squid but I don't think there're one for pain.
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Re: SanDiego's realistic tissue rebalance
« Reply #131 on: November 10, 2012, 02:05:16 pm »

Can't think of a better place to ask..

Is there a simple way to add extra... events... to this game? I.e possibility for creatures/dwarves to err.. defecate.. when in serious pain?

Perhaps have the resulting... splatter.. be a negative to dwarven moods.. (or a buff to some seriously weird magmafodders?)

I've no idea where to start with something like that, so a point in the right direction and i'll go off my own way.

Pain? No. The wiki page for syndromes has all the events possible under "counter triggers".

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Re: SanDiego's realistic tissue rebalance
« Reply #132 on: November 10, 2012, 02:38:39 pm »

ptw and to dl later.
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Re: SanDiego's realistic tissue rebalance
« Reply #133 on: December 14, 2012, 04:00:11 am »

Hey, sorry to necro, but I'd like to say that this is a great addition to ways to cause PAIN in DF, and I think it's awesome!
However, errorlog shows a bunch of creatures with things like
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And that's just the first few, the whole errorlog is spammed with these.
Is this because you didn't add tissue thickness for these animals? Or were they not released yet? Because there are animals like dogs, cats and sheep that show up with this problem too.
Some help, please?  :-\
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Re: SanDiego's realistic tissue rebalance
« Reply #134 on: December 14, 2012, 09:34:28 am »

This is probably oversight on my side. I will try to have a look into it as soon as I have some time.
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